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I'm moving out of my current place in a few days. When I'm doing something a little annoying to my roommate, I joke, "sorry, this is (will be) like the 4th last time I do this", to mean that I'm only gonna do it 3 (a few) more times, so don't sweat, and forgive me. Am I using "4th last time" right?










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I'm moving out of my current place in a few days. When I'm doing something a little annoying to my roommate, I joke, "sorry, this is (will be) like the 4th last time I do this", to mean that I'm only gonna do it 3 (a few) more times, so don't sweat, and forgive me. Am I using "4th last time" right?










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I'm moving out of my current place in a few days. When I'm doing something a little annoying to my roommate, I joke, "sorry, this is (will be) like the 4th last time I do this", to mean that I'm only gonna do it 3 (a few) more times, so don't sweat, and forgive me. Am I using "4th last time" right?










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I would always say 4th to last time.



"Fourth last time" sounds like it's the 4th time you're saying it for the last time.






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    I was just about to say the same - to completely avoid ambiguity, 'fourth to last time'

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    That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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Yes, if after saying this, you will, or are planning to, do the same thing 3 more times, then you can definitely say, "Sorry, this was like the 4th last time I do this", or more like "4th last time I plan to do this."



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    I read the statement "this is like the 4th last time I do this." to mean you have stated "this is the last time I do this" three times already.



    Unless you have said this three times, then I would say you are not using the word "4th" correctly in this manner.



    If you are trying to say "I am only doing this three more times", then you could say the phrase "sorry, I have to do this three more times."






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      Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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      although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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    I would always say 4th to last time.



    "Fourth last time" sounds like it's the 4th time you're saying it for the last time.






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      That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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      @DavidRicherby: Seeing how people these days use their phones to type messages to people in the same room, it wouldn't surprise me! But even in speech, you can hint at hyphenation in your rhythm and timing. (In ‘fourth-last’, the ‘last’ would follow more quickly and with less emphasis than in ‘fourth last’.) After all, punctuation developed as a way of capturing the pauses, emphases, &c of spoken language, and only more recently acquired semantic significance.

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    I would always say 4th to last time.



    "Fourth last time" sounds like it's the 4th time you're saying it for the last time.






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      That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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    I would always say 4th to last time.



    "Fourth last time" sounds like it's the 4th time you're saying it for the last time.






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    I would always say 4th to last time.



    "Fourth last time" sounds like it's the 4th time you're saying it for the last time.







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      That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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      @gidds A hyphen does indeed disambiguate, but I doubt the asker is submitting jokes to their room-mate in writing.

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      @DavidRicherby: Seeing how people these days use their phones to type messages to people in the same room, it wouldn't surprise me! But even in speech, you can hint at hyphenation in your rhythm and timing. (In ‘fourth-last’, the ‘last’ would follow more quickly and with less emphasis than in ‘fourth last’.) After all, punctuation developed as a way of capturing the pauses, emphases, &c of spoken language, and only more recently acquired semantic significance.

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      I was just about to say the same - to completely avoid ambiguity, 'fourth to last time'

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      That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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      @gidds A hyphen does indeed disambiguate, but I doubt the asker is submitting jokes to their room-mate in writing.

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      @DavidRicherby: Seeing how people these days use their phones to type messages to people in the same room, it wouldn't surprise me! But even in speech, you can hint at hyphenation in your rhythm and timing. (In ‘fourth-last’, the ‘last’ would follow more quickly and with less emphasis than in ‘fourth last’.) After all, punctuation developed as a way of capturing the pauses, emphases, &c of spoken language, and only more recently acquired semantic significance.

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    That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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    That's where a hyphen would remove the ambiguity: ‘the fourth-last time’ clearly means there will be three more. — Hyphens seem to be out of fashion, but I think they're jolly handy and deserve to be used more! (And if everyone used them, then ‘the fourth last time’ would clearly mean that it follows three other last times.)

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    @DavidRicherby: Seeing how people these days use their phones to type messages to people in the same room, it wouldn't surprise me! But even in speech, you can hint at hyphenation in your rhythm and timing. (In ‘fourth-last’, the ‘last’ would follow more quickly and with less emphasis than in ‘fourth last’.) After all, punctuation developed as a way of capturing the pauses, emphases, &c of spoken language, and only more recently acquired semantic significance.

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    @DavidRicherby: Seeing how people these days use their phones to type messages to people in the same room, it wouldn't surprise me! But even in speech, you can hint at hyphenation in your rhythm and timing. (In ‘fourth-last’, the ‘last’ would follow more quickly and with less emphasis than in ‘fourth last’.) After all, punctuation developed as a way of capturing the pauses, emphases, &c of spoken language, and only more recently acquired semantic significance.

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    Yes, if after saying this, you will, or are planning to, do the same thing 3 more times, then you can definitely say, "Sorry, this was like the 4th last time I do this", or more like "4th last time I plan to do this."



    I see nothing wrong with the use of "4th last time" here.






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      Yes, if after saying this, you will, or are planning to, do the same thing 3 more times, then you can definitely say, "Sorry, this was like the 4th last time I do this", or more like "4th last time I plan to do this."



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        Yes, if after saying this, you will, or are planning to, do the same thing 3 more times, then you can definitely say, "Sorry, this was like the 4th last time I do this", or more like "4th last time I plan to do this."



        I see nothing wrong with the use of "4th last time" here.






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        Yes, if after saying this, you will, or are planning to, do the same thing 3 more times, then you can definitely say, "Sorry, this was like the 4th last time I do this", or more like "4th last time I plan to do this."



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            I read the statement "this is like the 4th last time I do this." to mean you have stated "this is the last time I do this" three times already.



            Unless you have said this three times, then I would say you are not using the word "4th" correctly in this manner.



            If you are trying to say "I am only doing this three more times", then you could say the phrase "sorry, I have to do this three more times."






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              Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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              although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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            I read the statement "this is like the 4th last time I do this." to mean you have stated "this is the last time I do this" three times already.



            Unless you have said this three times, then I would say you are not using the word "4th" correctly in this manner.



            If you are trying to say "I am only doing this three more times", then you could say the phrase "sorry, I have to do this three more times."






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              Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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            I read the statement "this is like the 4th last time I do this." to mean you have stated "this is the last time I do this" three times already.



            Unless you have said this three times, then I would say you are not using the word "4th" correctly in this manner.



            If you are trying to say "I am only doing this three more times", then you could say the phrase "sorry, I have to do this three more times."






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            I read the statement "this is like the 4th last time I do this." to mean you have stated "this is the last time I do this" three times already.



            Unless you have said this three times, then I would say you are not using the word "4th" correctly in this manner.



            If you are trying to say "I am only doing this three more times", then you could say the phrase "sorry, I have to do this three more times."







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              Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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              although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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              Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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              although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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            Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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            Wrong. "Fourth last" (or "Nth last") is as common as second-last or third-last. It's completely obvious that "fourth-last" has the same meaning as second-last, third-last, etc.

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            although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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            although "this is like the 4th 'last time' I do this" would mean it has already been the 'last time' 3 times already

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