Is there an Impartial Brexit Deal comparison site?












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I found the following one but as far as I can tell it is totally biased towards staying in the EU.



https://comparethebrexit.com/



How can I get an impartial view of the effect of different deals (including Norway and Canada if possible).










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    That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

    – user
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    @chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

    – jean
    yesterday






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    @chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

    – MSalters
    yesterday






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    @ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

    – Fizz
    yesterday


















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I found the following one but as far as I can tell it is totally biased towards staying in the EU.



https://comparethebrexit.com/



How can I get an impartial view of the effect of different deals (including Norway and Canada if possible).










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  • 25





    That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

    – user
    yesterday






  • 6





    @chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

    – jean
    yesterday






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    @chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

    – MSalters
    yesterday






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    @ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

    – Fizz
    yesterday
















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I found the following one but as far as I can tell it is totally biased towards staying in the EU.



https://comparethebrexit.com/



How can I get an impartial view of the effect of different deals (including Norway and Canada if possible).










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I found the following one but as far as I can tell it is totally biased towards staying in the EU.



https://comparethebrexit.com/



How can I get an impartial view of the effect of different deals (including Norway and Canada if possible).







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    That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

    – user
    yesterday






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    @chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

    – jean
    yesterday






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    @chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

    – MSalters
    yesterday






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    @ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

    – Fizz
    yesterday
















  • 25





    That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

    – user
    yesterday






  • 6





    @chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

    – jean
    yesterday






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    @chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

    – MSalters
    yesterday






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    @ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

    – Fizz
    yesterday










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That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

– user
yesterday





That site seems fairly factual. Why do you say it's biased?

– user
yesterday




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@chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

– jean
yesterday





@chaslyfromUK. to be fair the "Learn more" buttons have links and give a good summary of each point. I'm also don't have a bone in this but always found brexit an insane self-destruct politic platform because the only fact (measurable, with many unbiased and trusted sources) I was able to find, year-after-year is actually the common market was a good thing for Britain economy.

– jean
yesterday




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@chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

– MSalters
yesterday





@chaslyfromUK: An EU military? There are more British journalists writing about that than there are EU politicians proposing it. What the EU does have is a budget and a parliament, but since that parliament isn't sovereign it cannot fund a military.

– MSalters
yesterday




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@ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

– chasly from UK
yesterday







@ MSalters - Maybe but the EU is not static. It is developing. For example this (slightly out-of-date) text was the first I found with a quick search. "The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has called for a European Union military headquarters to work towards an EU-controlled army. Juncker made the proposals during his State of the Union address to MEPs in Strasbourg on Wednesday (14 September)." ibtimes.co.uk/…

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yesterday






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What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

– Fizz
yesterday







What is "impartial" on matter like this is going to depend on the answer's POV. Just read different perspectives. Your question is as good as "what newspapers should I read?"

– Fizz
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While the data given seems factually correct, I agree that the framing on that website is biased towards staying in the EU (evidenced by only giving a button to contact your MP if you're worried about leaving the EU and the non-neutral exclamation points everywhere)



As someone without a bone in this fight (As in: I'm a European, find Brexit interesting, think there are risks involved in Brexit, but there's no guarantee at all that the UK will be strictly worse off in a semi-pragmatic world) I find that TLDRNews (I'm not affiliated) tries their utter best to keep from pandering to emotions. They have outlined different possibilities for deals as given by both Brexiteers and Remainers and done their best to do both risk and benefit assessments of these possibilities.



However: Benefit assessments are simply harder to make than risk assessments. This is because current benefits and costs (as gained and paid by being a full EU member) are known and were up until recently seen as a net-gain for the UK. As such: the disappearance of these are generally categorized under 'losses'.



Possible benefits are harder to assess because these are all still hypothetical. Could the UK be better off in a few years time because they left the EU? It can, it could also be completely bankrupt, since no one currently knows the opportunities that will arise once Brexit is complete.



This unknown outcome makes the framing of Brexit as a high risk-unknown reward decision factually and objectively correct. If you don't like that, and would instead prefer a nice list of why Brexit is the holy grail of democratic decisions, you should probably check your own biases. Just like people that say that the UK will 100% be worse off should check theirs.






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    Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

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    yesterday








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    @Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

    – DonFusili
    yesterday






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    @Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

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    @Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

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    @Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

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There's not a direct comparison of different deals on https://fullfact.org/, but a number of Brexit related questions or claims under scrutiny. Maybe that fits your search for more fact based arguments as well. To wet your appetite, here's an incomplete list of Brexit-related issues I found there:




  • Will there still be a transition period if we leave with no deal?

  • Can Article 50 be extended or stopped, and how would this happen?

  • Can we unilaterally quit the withdrawal agreement or backstop in future?

  • Would a trade deal with the USA mean lower food standards?

  • Why is avoiding a hard border in Ireland a priority?

  • Can Spain really veto the withdrawal bill?

  • If there is no deal will any restrictions apply to flights to and from EU airports?

  • What does it really mean to take back control of our waters and fishing, are there controls outside the EU which we will have to adhere to after Brexit?

  • Will the UK be able to do separate trade deals during the transition period?

  • What will happen to the European Health Insurance Card and emergency medical treatment after Brexit?

  • Where does Brexit leave us with regards to the Galileo project?

  • What will be the repercussions of Brexit on our membership of Interpol?

  • Will the UK remain part of the "Everything but Arms" initiative after Brexit?

  • During the transition period will the European Court of Justice be able to veto or change any UK laws?

  • Is the divorce bill that we’re paying less than half of what the EU originally asked for?

  • What would happen to medical supplies and drinking water if we left with no deal?

  • What exactly is the divorce bill paying for? And why are we paying it?

  • How long will we be paying the divorce bill?

  • If we go into the backstop, will the UK be making any financial contributions to the EU for that period?

  • Will we be able to implement trade deals with other countries if the Irish border situation is unresolved?

  • If we leave without a deal, what happens to the Irish border?

  • If we leave with no deal, how much of the divorce bill will we be legally obligated to pay?






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  • Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

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    Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

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While the data given seems factually correct, I agree that the framing on that website is biased towards staying in the EU (evidenced by only giving a button to contact your MP if you're worried about leaving the EU and the non-neutral exclamation points everywhere)



As someone without a bone in this fight (As in: I'm a European, find Brexit interesting, think there are risks involved in Brexit, but there's no guarantee at all that the UK will be strictly worse off in a semi-pragmatic world) I find that TLDRNews (I'm not affiliated) tries their utter best to keep from pandering to emotions. They have outlined different possibilities for deals as given by both Brexiteers and Remainers and done their best to do both risk and benefit assessments of these possibilities.



However: Benefit assessments are simply harder to make than risk assessments. This is because current benefits and costs (as gained and paid by being a full EU member) are known and were up until recently seen as a net-gain for the UK. As such: the disappearance of these are generally categorized under 'losses'.



Possible benefits are harder to assess because these are all still hypothetical. Could the UK be better off in a few years time because they left the EU? It can, it could also be completely bankrupt, since no one currently knows the opportunities that will arise once Brexit is complete.



This unknown outcome makes the framing of Brexit as a high risk-unknown reward decision factually and objectively correct. If you don't like that, and would instead prefer a nice list of why Brexit is the holy grail of democratic decisions, you should probably check your own biases. Just like people that say that the UK will 100% be worse off should check theirs.






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    Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    @Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

    – DonFusili
    yesterday






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    @Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








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    @Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








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    @Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

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While the data given seems factually correct, I agree that the framing on that website is biased towards staying in the EU (evidenced by only giving a button to contact your MP if you're worried about leaving the EU and the non-neutral exclamation points everywhere)



As someone without a bone in this fight (As in: I'm a European, find Brexit interesting, think there are risks involved in Brexit, but there's no guarantee at all that the UK will be strictly worse off in a semi-pragmatic world) I find that TLDRNews (I'm not affiliated) tries their utter best to keep from pandering to emotions. They have outlined different possibilities for deals as given by both Brexiteers and Remainers and done their best to do both risk and benefit assessments of these possibilities.



However: Benefit assessments are simply harder to make than risk assessments. This is because current benefits and costs (as gained and paid by being a full EU member) are known and were up until recently seen as a net-gain for the UK. As such: the disappearance of these are generally categorized under 'losses'.



Possible benefits are harder to assess because these are all still hypothetical. Could the UK be better off in a few years time because they left the EU? It can, it could also be completely bankrupt, since no one currently knows the opportunities that will arise once Brexit is complete.



This unknown outcome makes the framing of Brexit as a high risk-unknown reward decision factually and objectively correct. If you don't like that, and would instead prefer a nice list of why Brexit is the holy grail of democratic decisions, you should probably check your own biases. Just like people that say that the UK will 100% be worse off should check theirs.






share|improve this answer



















  • 2





    Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    @Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

    – DonFusili
    yesterday






  • 3





    @Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 3





    @Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 4





    @Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

    – DonFusili
    23 hours ago














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While the data given seems factually correct, I agree that the framing on that website is biased towards staying in the EU (evidenced by only giving a button to contact your MP if you're worried about leaving the EU and the non-neutral exclamation points everywhere)



As someone without a bone in this fight (As in: I'm a European, find Brexit interesting, think there are risks involved in Brexit, but there's no guarantee at all that the UK will be strictly worse off in a semi-pragmatic world) I find that TLDRNews (I'm not affiliated) tries their utter best to keep from pandering to emotions. They have outlined different possibilities for deals as given by both Brexiteers and Remainers and done their best to do both risk and benefit assessments of these possibilities.



However: Benefit assessments are simply harder to make than risk assessments. This is because current benefits and costs (as gained and paid by being a full EU member) are known and were up until recently seen as a net-gain for the UK. As such: the disappearance of these are generally categorized under 'losses'.



Possible benefits are harder to assess because these are all still hypothetical. Could the UK be better off in a few years time because they left the EU? It can, it could also be completely bankrupt, since no one currently knows the opportunities that will arise once Brexit is complete.



This unknown outcome makes the framing of Brexit as a high risk-unknown reward decision factually and objectively correct. If you don't like that, and would instead prefer a nice list of why Brexit is the holy grail of democratic decisions, you should probably check your own biases. Just like people that say that the UK will 100% be worse off should check theirs.






share|improve this answer













While the data given seems factually correct, I agree that the framing on that website is biased towards staying in the EU (evidenced by only giving a button to contact your MP if you're worried about leaving the EU and the non-neutral exclamation points everywhere)



As someone without a bone in this fight (As in: I'm a European, find Brexit interesting, think there are risks involved in Brexit, but there's no guarantee at all that the UK will be strictly worse off in a semi-pragmatic world) I find that TLDRNews (I'm not affiliated) tries their utter best to keep from pandering to emotions. They have outlined different possibilities for deals as given by both Brexiteers and Remainers and done their best to do both risk and benefit assessments of these possibilities.



However: Benefit assessments are simply harder to make than risk assessments. This is because current benefits and costs (as gained and paid by being a full EU member) are known and were up until recently seen as a net-gain for the UK. As such: the disappearance of these are generally categorized under 'losses'.



Possible benefits are harder to assess because these are all still hypothetical. Could the UK be better off in a few years time because they left the EU? It can, it could also be completely bankrupt, since no one currently knows the opportunities that will arise once Brexit is complete.



This unknown outcome makes the framing of Brexit as a high risk-unknown reward decision factually and objectively correct. If you don't like that, and would instead prefer a nice list of why Brexit is the holy grail of democratic decisions, you should probably check your own biases. Just like people that say that the UK will 100% be worse off should check theirs.







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  • 2





    Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    @Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

    – DonFusili
    yesterday






  • 3





    @Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 3





    @Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 4





    @Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

    – DonFusili
    23 hours ago














  • 2





    Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

    – chasly from UK
    yesterday








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    @Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

    – DonFusili
    yesterday






  • 3





    @Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 3





    @Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

    – chasly from UK
    23 hours ago








  • 4





    @Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

    – DonFusili
    23 hours ago








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Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

– chasly from UK
yesterday







Thanks, that's a very helpful answer, especially the link. I'm not looking for a Grail (although finding one would be nice) - just information. The TV is full of people shouting at each other about which deal is best but so far I have heard not a single news organisation explain what May's deal actually is and how it is different from WTO, EFTA, Canda, Norway, etc.

– chasly from UK
yesterday






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9





@Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

– DonFusili
yesterday





@Jontia "Contact your MP with your opinion on Brexit" is the most neutral I can come up with myself. "Contact your MP to honor the vote" is what I've seen on other biased sources leaning the other way. "if you are worried about leaving the EU" implies that there is something to be worried about, which is already taking a stance.

– DonFusili
yesterday




3




3





@Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

– chasly from UK
23 hours ago







@Jontia - As a postscript to DonFusili's comment. There could be a button saying, "Contact your MP if you are worried about staying in the EU." A lot of people are, hence the referendum result.

– chasly from UK
23 hours ago






3




3





@Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

– chasly from UK
23 hours ago







@Jontia - With respect, I think you need to brush up on your logic as well as pedantry. "I am worried about leaving" is not the same as and doesn't include "I'm worried about staying."

– chasly from UK
23 hours ago






4




4





@Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

– DonFusili
23 hours ago





@Jontia I don't mind pedantry, it's important in polarized debates like this, it's why I'm pedantic about the implied notion of the text. However: implying that "if you are worried about leaving" covers "I'm worried that leaving isn't being handled strongly enough" on a site that has a number of warning signs in the leaving columns, even when the change is not necessarily bad, seems strange. If it matters: I'd be worrying because of the high risks involved if I were a Brit, but would also dislike opinion pieces titled "you're right to be worried".

– DonFusili
23 hours ago











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There's not a direct comparison of different deals on https://fullfact.org/, but a number of Brexit related questions or claims under scrutiny. Maybe that fits your search for more fact based arguments as well. To wet your appetite, here's an incomplete list of Brexit-related issues I found there:




  • Will there still be a transition period if we leave with no deal?

  • Can Article 50 be extended or stopped, and how would this happen?

  • Can we unilaterally quit the withdrawal agreement or backstop in future?

  • Would a trade deal with the USA mean lower food standards?

  • Why is avoiding a hard border in Ireland a priority?

  • Can Spain really veto the withdrawal bill?

  • If there is no deal will any restrictions apply to flights to and from EU airports?

  • What does it really mean to take back control of our waters and fishing, are there controls outside the EU which we will have to adhere to after Brexit?

  • Will the UK be able to do separate trade deals during the transition period?

  • What will happen to the European Health Insurance Card and emergency medical treatment after Brexit?

  • Where does Brexit leave us with regards to the Galileo project?

  • What will be the repercussions of Brexit on our membership of Interpol?

  • Will the UK remain part of the "Everything but Arms" initiative after Brexit?

  • During the transition period will the European Court of Justice be able to veto or change any UK laws?

  • Is the divorce bill that we’re paying less than half of what the EU originally asked for?

  • What would happen to medical supplies and drinking water if we left with no deal?

  • What exactly is the divorce bill paying for? And why are we paying it?

  • How long will we be paying the divorce bill?

  • If we go into the backstop, will the UK be making any financial contributions to the EU for that period?

  • Will we be able to implement trade deals with other countries if the Irish border situation is unresolved?

  • If we leave without a deal, what happens to the Irish border?

  • If we leave with no deal, how much of the divorce bill will we be legally obligated to pay?






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  • Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

    – chasly from UK
    18 hours ago






  • 3





    Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

    – sampathsris
    12 hours ago
















5














There's not a direct comparison of different deals on https://fullfact.org/, but a number of Brexit related questions or claims under scrutiny. Maybe that fits your search for more fact based arguments as well. To wet your appetite, here's an incomplete list of Brexit-related issues I found there:




  • Will there still be a transition period if we leave with no deal?

  • Can Article 50 be extended or stopped, and how would this happen?

  • Can we unilaterally quit the withdrawal agreement or backstop in future?

  • Would a trade deal with the USA mean lower food standards?

  • Why is avoiding a hard border in Ireland a priority?

  • Can Spain really veto the withdrawal bill?

  • If there is no deal will any restrictions apply to flights to and from EU airports?

  • What does it really mean to take back control of our waters and fishing, are there controls outside the EU which we will have to adhere to after Brexit?

  • Will the UK be able to do separate trade deals during the transition period?

  • What will happen to the European Health Insurance Card and emergency medical treatment after Brexit?

  • Where does Brexit leave us with regards to the Galileo project?

  • What will be the repercussions of Brexit on our membership of Interpol?

  • Will the UK remain part of the "Everything but Arms" initiative after Brexit?

  • During the transition period will the European Court of Justice be able to veto or change any UK laws?

  • Is the divorce bill that we’re paying less than half of what the EU originally asked for?

  • What would happen to medical supplies and drinking water if we left with no deal?

  • What exactly is the divorce bill paying for? And why are we paying it?

  • How long will we be paying the divorce bill?

  • If we go into the backstop, will the UK be making any financial contributions to the EU for that period?

  • Will we be able to implement trade deals with other countries if the Irish border situation is unresolved?

  • If we leave without a deal, what happens to the Irish border?

  • If we leave with no deal, how much of the divorce bill will we be legally obligated to pay?






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

    – chasly from UK
    18 hours ago






  • 3





    Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

    – sampathsris
    12 hours ago














5












5








5







There's not a direct comparison of different deals on https://fullfact.org/, but a number of Brexit related questions or claims under scrutiny. Maybe that fits your search for more fact based arguments as well. To wet your appetite, here's an incomplete list of Brexit-related issues I found there:




  • Will there still be a transition period if we leave with no deal?

  • Can Article 50 be extended or stopped, and how would this happen?

  • Can we unilaterally quit the withdrawal agreement or backstop in future?

  • Would a trade deal with the USA mean lower food standards?

  • Why is avoiding a hard border in Ireland a priority?

  • Can Spain really veto the withdrawal bill?

  • If there is no deal will any restrictions apply to flights to and from EU airports?

  • What does it really mean to take back control of our waters and fishing, are there controls outside the EU which we will have to adhere to after Brexit?

  • Will the UK be able to do separate trade deals during the transition period?

  • What will happen to the European Health Insurance Card and emergency medical treatment after Brexit?

  • Where does Brexit leave us with regards to the Galileo project?

  • What will be the repercussions of Brexit on our membership of Interpol?

  • Will the UK remain part of the "Everything but Arms" initiative after Brexit?

  • During the transition period will the European Court of Justice be able to veto or change any UK laws?

  • Is the divorce bill that we’re paying less than half of what the EU originally asked for?

  • What would happen to medical supplies and drinking water if we left with no deal?

  • What exactly is the divorce bill paying for? And why are we paying it?

  • How long will we be paying the divorce bill?

  • If we go into the backstop, will the UK be making any financial contributions to the EU for that period?

  • Will we be able to implement trade deals with other countries if the Irish border situation is unresolved?

  • If we leave without a deal, what happens to the Irish border?

  • If we leave with no deal, how much of the divorce bill will we be legally obligated to pay?






share|improve this answer















There's not a direct comparison of different deals on https://fullfact.org/, but a number of Brexit related questions or claims under scrutiny. Maybe that fits your search for more fact based arguments as well. To wet your appetite, here's an incomplete list of Brexit-related issues I found there:




  • Will there still be a transition period if we leave with no deal?

  • Can Article 50 be extended or stopped, and how would this happen?

  • Can we unilaterally quit the withdrawal agreement or backstop in future?

  • Would a trade deal with the USA mean lower food standards?

  • Why is avoiding a hard border in Ireland a priority?

  • Can Spain really veto the withdrawal bill?

  • If there is no deal will any restrictions apply to flights to and from EU airports?

  • What does it really mean to take back control of our waters and fishing, are there controls outside the EU which we will have to adhere to after Brexit?

  • Will the UK be able to do separate trade deals during the transition period?

  • What will happen to the European Health Insurance Card and emergency medical treatment after Brexit?

  • Where does Brexit leave us with regards to the Galileo project?

  • What will be the repercussions of Brexit on our membership of Interpol?

  • Will the UK remain part of the "Everything but Arms" initiative after Brexit?

  • During the transition period will the European Court of Justice be able to veto or change any UK laws?

  • Is the divorce bill that we’re paying less than half of what the EU originally asked for?

  • What would happen to medical supplies and drinking water if we left with no deal?

  • What exactly is the divorce bill paying for? And why are we paying it?

  • How long will we be paying the divorce bill?

  • If we go into the backstop, will the UK be making any financial contributions to the EU for that period?

  • Will we be able to implement trade deals with other countries if the Irish border situation is unresolved?

  • If we leave without a deal, what happens to the Irish border?

  • If we leave with no deal, how much of the divorce bill will we be legally obligated to pay?







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  • Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

    – chasly from UK
    18 hours ago






  • 3





    Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

    – sampathsris
    12 hours ago



















  • Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

    – chasly from UK
    18 hours ago






  • 3





    Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

    – sampathsris
    12 hours ago

















Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

– chasly from UK
18 hours ago





Thanks - that's a very useful website for all sorts of reasons.

– chasly from UK
18 hours ago




3




3





Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

– sampathsris
12 hours ago





Interpol is the International Police, I don't see how Brexit affects UK's Interpol membership. Maybe you meant Europol?

– sampathsris
12 hours ago


















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