Is this resistor leaking? If so, is it a concern?
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I found this resistor on the control board of an old Whirpool washing machine:
Is that fluid leaking from the resistor? (Why would that happen?) Could it be something like stray epoxy or a chemical reaction with the substances in the machine like water vapor/soap instead?
If it is fluid or a chemical reaction, what implication does that have for the longevity/safety of the resistor?
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I found this resistor on the control board of an old Whirpool washing machine:
Is that fluid leaking from the resistor? (Why would that happen?) Could it be something like stray epoxy or a chemical reaction with the substances in the machine like water vapor/soap instead?
If it is fluid or a chemical reaction, what implication does that have for the longevity/safety of the resistor?
resistors safety damage corrosion
asked May 25 at 21:42
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Resistors contain no fluid. That's capacitors that leak like that.
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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May 27 at 13:56
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I found this resistor on the control board of an old Whirpool washing machine:
Is that fluid leaking from the resistor? (Why would that happen?) Could it be something like stray epoxy or a chemical reaction with the substances in the machine like water vapor/soap instead?
If it is fluid or a chemical reaction, what implication does that have for the longevity/safety of the resistor?
resistors safety damage corrosion
asked May 25 at 21:42
Nonny MooseNonny Moose
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I found this resistor on the control board of an old Whirpool washing machine:
Is that fluid leaking from the resistor? (Why would that happen?) Could it be something like stray epoxy or a chemical reaction with the substances in the machine like water vapor/soap instead?
If it is fluid or a chemical reaction, what implication does that have for the longevity/safety of the resistor?
resistors safety damage corrosion
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asked May 25 at 21:42
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Resistors contain no fluid. That's capacitors that leak like that.
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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– Someone Somewhere
May 27 at 13:56
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Resistors contain no fluid. That's capacitors that leak like that.
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
1
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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– Someone Somewhere
May 27 at 13:56
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Resistors contain no fluid. That's capacitors that leak like that.
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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Resistors contain no fluid. That's capacitors that leak like that.
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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– Someone Somewhere
May 27 at 13:56
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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– Someone Somewhere
May 27 at 13:56
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That's a cement block style, wirewound power resistor, sometimes called a square carbon power resistor. They look like this when new:
The one in your circuit board has been mounted upside-down from usual, so you can see the guts of it through the opening slot in the bottom, but that's no big deal.
Like all resistors, this component contains no fluid, so the material that has bubbled was added later. It looks very much like the amber conformal coating material that was popular for that vintage of PCB. It has probably been over-applied and ended up on the power resistor. Naturally it will bubble and discolour when heated. Apart from the odour and aesthetic factors, this is not in itself an electrical issue.
So I'd say with some confidence that there is very little concern about on-going chemical reactions.
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No, it's fine (as far as we can tell visually). Maybe some foam got melted onto it or a bit of glue was on there and was heated by the resistor. Those resistors have a ceramic housing, resistance wire winding around a core, and are held in by a type of ceramic cement. No liquids at all.
I wonder why they put the ugly side up. Whatever their reason, it's consistent, and if you search the PCB part number you'll find other examples with the burnt glue or whatever schmoo it is on there.
answered May 25 at 21:51
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
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– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
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– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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Ceramic resistors sometimes run pretty hot so something may have melted on it but my concern is to the right side of the yellow capacitors is visible corrosion that may be due to capacitor fluid leakage and may require replacement clean up may be possible with 97% alcohol
answered May 26 at 19:28
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
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– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
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That's a cement block style, wirewound power resistor, sometimes called a square carbon power resistor. They look like this when new:
The one in your circuit board has been mounted upside-down from usual, so you can see the guts of it through the opening slot in the bottom, but that's no big deal.
Like all resistors, this component contains no fluid, so the material that has bubbled was added later. It looks very much like the amber conformal coating material that was popular for that vintage of PCB. It has probably been over-applied and ended up on the power resistor. Naturally it will bubble and discolour when heated. Apart from the odour and aesthetic factors, this is not in itself an electrical issue.
So I'd say with some confidence that there is very little concern about on-going chemical reactions.
edited May 27 at 7:12
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That's a cement block style, wirewound power resistor, sometimes called a square carbon power resistor. They look like this when new:
The one in your circuit board has been mounted upside-down from usual, so you can see the guts of it through the opening slot in the bottom, but that's no big deal.
Like all resistors, this component contains no fluid, so the material that has bubbled was added later. It looks very much like the amber conformal coating material that was popular for that vintage of PCB. It has probably been over-applied and ended up on the power resistor. Naturally it will bubble and discolour when heated. Apart from the odour and aesthetic factors, this is not in itself an electrical issue.
So I'd say with some confidence that there is very little concern about on-going chemical reactions.
edited May 27 at 7:12
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That's a cement block style, wirewound power resistor, sometimes called a square carbon power resistor. They look like this when new:
The one in your circuit board has been mounted upside-down from usual, so you can see the guts of it through the opening slot in the bottom, but that's no big deal.
Like all resistors, this component contains no fluid, so the material that has bubbled was added later. It looks very much like the amber conformal coating material that was popular for that vintage of PCB. It has probably been over-applied and ended up on the power resistor. Naturally it will bubble and discolour when heated. Apart from the odour and aesthetic factors, this is not in itself an electrical issue.
So I'd say with some confidence that there is very little concern about on-going chemical reactions.
edited May 27 at 7:12
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answered May 25 at 22:08
Heath RafteryHeath Raftery
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That's a cement block style, wirewound power resistor, sometimes called a square carbon power resistor. They look like this when new:
The one in your circuit board has been mounted upside-down from usual, so you can see the guts of it through the opening slot in the bottom, but that's no big deal.
Like all resistors, this component contains no fluid, so the material that has bubbled was added later. It looks very much like the amber conformal coating material that was popular for that vintage of PCB. It has probably been over-applied and ended up on the power resistor. Naturally it will bubble and discolour when heated. Apart from the odour and aesthetic factors, this is not in itself an electrical issue.
So I'd say with some confidence that there is very little concern about on-going chemical reactions.
edited May 27 at 7:12
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No, it's fine (as far as we can tell visually). Maybe some foam got melted onto it or a bit of glue was on there and was heated by the resistor. Those resistors have a ceramic housing, resistance wire winding around a core, and are held in by a type of ceramic cement. No liquids at all.
I wonder why they put the ugly side up. Whatever their reason, it's consistent, and if you search the PCB part number you'll find other examples with the burnt glue or whatever schmoo it is on there.
answered May 25 at 21:51
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
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– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
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– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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No, it's fine (as far as we can tell visually). Maybe some foam got melted onto it or a bit of glue was on there and was heated by the resistor. Those resistors have a ceramic housing, resistance wire winding around a core, and are held in by a type of ceramic cement. No liquids at all.
I wonder why they put the ugly side up. Whatever their reason, it's consistent, and if you search the PCB part number you'll find other examples with the burnt glue or whatever schmoo it is on there.
answered May 25 at 21:51
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
$endgroup$
– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
1
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
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– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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No, it's fine (as far as we can tell visually). Maybe some foam got melted onto it or a bit of glue was on there and was heated by the resistor. Those resistors have a ceramic housing, resistance wire winding around a core, and are held in by a type of ceramic cement. No liquids at all.
I wonder why they put the ugly side up. Whatever their reason, it's consistent, and if you search the PCB part number you'll find other examples with the burnt glue or whatever schmoo it is on there.
answered May 25 at 21:51
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
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No, it's fine (as far as we can tell visually). Maybe some foam got melted onto it or a bit of glue was on there and was heated by the resistor. Those resistors have a ceramic housing, resistance wire winding around a core, and are held in by a type of ceramic cement. No liquids at all.
I wonder why they put the ugly side up. Whatever their reason, it's consistent, and if you search the PCB part number you'll find other examples with the burnt glue or whatever schmoo it is on there.
answered May 25 at 21:51
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
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answered May 25 at 21:51
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answered May 25 at 21:51
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
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– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
1
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
$endgroup$
– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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5
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
$endgroup$
– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
1
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
$endgroup$
– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
5
5
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
$endgroup$
– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
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If they really did it on purpose, a hot spot forms on the "ugly side first because its not as good as a thermal insulator as the ceramic, so they might have done that so that the hot spot doesn't overheat the board under the resistor.
$endgroup$
– drtechno
May 26 at 14:08
1
1
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
$endgroup$
– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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There are some old ceramic block resistors that were not filled with ceramic but sand bonded with some sort of "glue". Not sure what happened when they got hot.
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– Robert Endl
May 26 at 19:49
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Ceramic resistors sometimes run pretty hot so something may have melted on it but my concern is to the right side of the yellow capacitors is visible corrosion that may be due to capacitor fluid leakage and may require replacement clean up may be possible with 97% alcohol
answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
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– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
4
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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Ceramic resistors sometimes run pretty hot so something may have melted on it but my concern is to the right side of the yellow capacitors is visible corrosion that may be due to capacitor fluid leakage and may require replacement clean up may be possible with 97% alcohol
answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
$endgroup$
– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
4
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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Ceramic resistors sometimes run pretty hot so something may have melted on it but my concern is to the right side of the yellow capacitors is visible corrosion that may be due to capacitor fluid leakage and may require replacement clean up may be possible with 97% alcohol
answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
711 bronze badge
$endgroup$
Ceramic resistors sometimes run pretty hot so something may have melted on it but my concern is to the right side of the yellow capacitors is visible corrosion that may be due to capacitor fluid leakage and may require replacement clean up may be possible with 97% alcohol
answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
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answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
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answered May 26 at 19:28
Elwin JensenElwin Jensen
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
$endgroup$
– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
4
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
$endgroup$
– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
4
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
$endgroup$
– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
$endgroup$
– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
$begingroup$
Oh, wow. I definitely did not notice the real leakage! Thanks for pointing that out; I'll take a look at it.
$endgroup$
– Nonny Moose
May 26 at 19:30
4
4
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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@Elwin - That appears to be spider's web :-)
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– Russell McMahon
May 26 at 21:00
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– Hearth
May 25 at 21:45
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@Hearth I know. That's why it was so weird to see that. The deposit even has the sort of bubbly pattern that you get when chemicals mix after exiting an enclosure and then dry.
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– Nonny Moose
May 25 at 21:49
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There's a slight chance that the resistor has overheated, causing the resin inside to bubble out.
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– Hot Licks
May 26 at 23:14
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I mean, there are resistors with fluid. Just not the ones you find on PCBs. Some very old very large motors used primary resistance starters, with the resistors being an electrolyte bath with some big electrodes...
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– Someone Somewhere
May 27 at 13:56