node command while defining a coordinate in TikZ












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This question is related to Strange behavior in TikZ draw command but is not the same.



While working with coordinates and nodes in TikZ, I was expecting that:



  coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};


and



  node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};


would yield the same result. But they don't. I get the following output:



enter image description here



With coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};, I meant, the system will create a node at (4,0) and will place the text $x$ to its right.



Based on the output, I see the text $x$ is placed at (0,0), with the above command.



Why does this happen.



MWE:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usetikzlibrary{intersections}
begin{document}
begin{tikzpicture}
coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};

node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};

draw[<->,thick] (0,3) |- (4,0);
end{tikzpicture}
end{document}









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    Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

    – marmot
    yesterday













  • @marmot - I have added the MWE.

    – subham soni
    yesterday











  • A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

    – JouleV
    yesterday











  • @JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

    – subham soni
    yesterday






  • 1





    The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

    – marmot
    yesterday
















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This question is related to Strange behavior in TikZ draw command but is not the same.



While working with coordinates and nodes in TikZ, I was expecting that:



  coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};


and



  node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};


would yield the same result. But they don't. I get the following output:



enter image description here



With coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};, I meant, the system will create a node at (4,0) and will place the text $x$ to its right.



Based on the output, I see the text $x$ is placed at (0,0), with the above command.



Why does this happen.



MWE:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usetikzlibrary{intersections}
begin{document}
begin{tikzpicture}
coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};

node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};

draw[<->,thick] (0,3) |- (4,0);
end{tikzpicture}
end{document}









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    Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

    – marmot
    yesterday













  • @marmot - I have added the MWE.

    – subham soni
    yesterday











  • A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

    – JouleV
    yesterday











  • @JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

    – subham soni
    yesterday






  • 1





    The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

    – marmot
    yesterday














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This question is related to Strange behavior in TikZ draw command but is not the same.



While working with coordinates and nodes in TikZ, I was expecting that:



  coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};


and



  node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};


would yield the same result. But they don't. I get the following output:



enter image description here



With coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};, I meant, the system will create a node at (4,0) and will place the text $x$ to its right.



Based on the output, I see the text $x$ is placed at (0,0), with the above command.



Why does this happen.



MWE:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usetikzlibrary{intersections}
begin{document}
begin{tikzpicture}
coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};

node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};

draw[<->,thick] (0,3) |- (4,0);
end{tikzpicture}
end{document}









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This question is related to Strange behavior in TikZ draw command but is not the same.



While working with coordinates and nodes in TikZ, I was expecting that:



  coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};


and



  node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};


would yield the same result. But they don't. I get the following output:



enter image description here



With coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};, I meant, the system will create a node at (4,0) and will place the text $x$ to its right.



Based on the output, I see the text $x$ is placed at (0,0), with the above command.



Why does this happen.



MWE:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usetikzlibrary{intersections}
begin{document}
begin{tikzpicture}
coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$};
coordinate (y) at (0,3) node[above] {$y$};

node[right] at (x) {$x$};
node[above] at (y) {$y$};

draw[<->,thick] (0,3) |- (4,0);
end{tikzpicture}
end{document}






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    Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

    – marmot
    yesterday













  • @marmot - I have added the MWE.

    – subham soni
    yesterday











  • A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

    – JouleV
    yesterday











  • @JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

    – subham soni
    yesterday






  • 1





    The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

    – marmot
    yesterday














  • 1





    Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

    – marmot
    yesterday













  • @marmot - I have added the MWE.

    – subham soni
    yesterday











  • A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

    – JouleV
    yesterday











  • @JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

    – subham soni
    yesterday






  • 1





    The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

    – marmot
    yesterday








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Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

– marmot
yesterday







Why would they? Try path (x) node[right] {$x$};path (y) node[above] {$y$};. If you give TikZ contradicting instructions, or place the instructions in the wrong order, you will get an unexpected result. BTW, you expect answerers to provide you with a full MWE, i.e. a document that starts with documentclass etc. Could you please consider also using such an MWE in your question?

– marmot
yesterday















@marmot - I have added the MWE.

– subham soni
yesterday





@marmot - I have added the MWE.

– subham soni
yesterday













A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

– JouleV
yesterday





A trick to solve all these mysteries: just add draw option to the nodes, and you will probably see the difference.

– JouleV
yesterday













@JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

– subham soni
yesterday





@JouleV - That would still not explain why it happens. I am more interested in the why part.

– subham soni
yesterday




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The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

– marmot
yesterday





The "why part" is simply that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; the at (4,0) gets eaten up by coordinate (x) at and then TikZ "sees" node[right] {$x$} and inserts the default coordinate (0,0) to parse it.

– marmot
yesterday










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try the following:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
%usetikzlibrary{intersections} not used in this mwe

begin{document}
begin{tikzpicture}
coordinate[label=right:$x$] (x) at (4,0);
coordinate[label=above:$y$] (y) at (0,3);

draw[<->,thick] (y) |- (x);
end{tikzpicture}
end{document}


enter image description here






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    In section 17.2.1 of the TikZ manual, the commands for such works are shown:





    • path ... node ... (1.1)



      or node ... (1.2)




    • path ... coordinate ... (2.1)



      or coordinate ... (2.2)





    coordinate ... node ... are not present for the same job! In fact, since coordinate is the same as path coordinate so coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; is understood as



    path coordinate (x) at (4,0);  % or `coordinate (x) at (4,0);
    path node[right] {$x$}; % (0,0) in case no coordinates are specified



    This makes the outputs of coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; and node[right] at (x) {$x$}; not the same at all.



    That is why we get



    enter image description here



    with this code



    documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
    begin{document}
    begin{tikzpicture}
    coordinate (x) at (2,0) node[draw,right] {world};
    fill (x) circle (1pt)
    (0,0) circle (1pt);
    end{tikzpicture}
    end{document}


    and we get



    enter image description here



    with this code



    documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
    begin{document}
    begin{tikzpicture}
    node[draw] (x) at (2,0) {Hello} node[draw,right] {world};
    fill (0,0) circle (1pt);
    end{tikzpicture}
    end{document}


    So how to solve it? We can't combine (2.2) or (1.2) with ... node ..., but we can do it with (1.1) or (2.1):



    path (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};


    Remember that draw, fill, filldraw... are all daughters of path, so they are all valid. But node and coordinate are not – they are less general versions of path..





    I found this using the draw powerful trick :)






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    • @Kpym Thanks! Edited.

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      8 hours ago



















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    It doesn't give you the expected result because the syntax is not appropriate. (At which level do you expect an explanation? Does it help that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; at (4,0) got "absorbed" by coordinate (x) so that TikZ adds the default coordinate (0,0) to interpret node[right] {$x$}?) You can condense all statements to one line.



    documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
    begin{document}
    begin{tikzpicture}
    draw[<->,thick] (0,3) coordinate (y) node[above] {$y$} |- (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};
    end{tikzpicture}
    end{document}


    enter image description here






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      try the following:



      documentclass{article}
      usepackage{tikz}
      %usetikzlibrary{intersections} not used in this mwe

      begin{document}
      begin{tikzpicture}
      coordinate[label=right:$x$] (x) at (4,0);
      coordinate[label=above:$y$] (y) at (0,3);

      draw[<->,thick] (y) |- (x);
      end{tikzpicture}
      end{document}


      enter image description here






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        try the following:



        documentclass{article}
        usepackage{tikz}
        %usetikzlibrary{intersections} not used in this mwe

        begin{document}
        begin{tikzpicture}
        coordinate[label=right:$x$] (x) at (4,0);
        coordinate[label=above:$y$] (y) at (0,3);

        draw[<->,thick] (y) |- (x);
        end{tikzpicture}
        end{document}


        enter image description here






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          try the following:



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage{tikz}
          %usetikzlibrary{intersections} not used in this mwe

          begin{document}
          begin{tikzpicture}
          coordinate[label=right:$x$] (x) at (4,0);
          coordinate[label=above:$y$] (y) at (0,3);

          draw[<->,thick] (y) |- (x);
          end{tikzpicture}
          end{document}


          enter image description here






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          try the following:



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage{tikz}
          %usetikzlibrary{intersections} not used in this mwe

          begin{document}
          begin{tikzpicture}
          coordinate[label=right:$x$] (x) at (4,0);
          coordinate[label=above:$y$] (y) at (0,3);

          draw[<->,thick] (y) |- (x);
          end{tikzpicture}
          end{document}


          enter image description here







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              In section 17.2.1 of the TikZ manual, the commands for such works are shown:





              • path ... node ... (1.1)



                or node ... (1.2)




              • path ... coordinate ... (2.1)



                or coordinate ... (2.2)





              coordinate ... node ... are not present for the same job! In fact, since coordinate is the same as path coordinate so coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; is understood as



              path coordinate (x) at (4,0);  % or `coordinate (x) at (4,0);
              path node[right] {$x$}; % (0,0) in case no coordinates are specified



              This makes the outputs of coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; and node[right] at (x) {$x$}; not the same at all.



              That is why we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              coordinate (x) at (2,0) node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (x) circle (1pt)
              (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              and we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              node[draw] (x) at (2,0) {Hello} node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              So how to solve it? We can't combine (2.2) or (1.2) with ... node ..., but we can do it with (1.1) or (2.1):



              path (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};


              Remember that draw, fill, filldraw... are all daughters of path, so they are all valid. But node and coordinate are not – they are less general versions of path..





              I found this using the draw powerful trick :)






              share|improve this answer


























              • @Kpym Thanks! Edited.

                – JouleV
                8 hours ago
















              3














              In section 17.2.1 of the TikZ manual, the commands for such works are shown:





              • path ... node ... (1.1)



                or node ... (1.2)




              • path ... coordinate ... (2.1)



                or coordinate ... (2.2)





              coordinate ... node ... are not present for the same job! In fact, since coordinate is the same as path coordinate so coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; is understood as



              path coordinate (x) at (4,0);  % or `coordinate (x) at (4,0);
              path node[right] {$x$}; % (0,0) in case no coordinates are specified



              This makes the outputs of coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; and node[right] at (x) {$x$}; not the same at all.



              That is why we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              coordinate (x) at (2,0) node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (x) circle (1pt)
              (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              and we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              node[draw] (x) at (2,0) {Hello} node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              So how to solve it? We can't combine (2.2) or (1.2) with ... node ..., but we can do it with (1.1) or (2.1):



              path (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};


              Remember that draw, fill, filldraw... are all daughters of path, so they are all valid. But node and coordinate are not – they are less general versions of path..





              I found this using the draw powerful trick :)






              share|improve this answer


























              • @Kpym Thanks! Edited.

                – JouleV
                8 hours ago














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              In section 17.2.1 of the TikZ manual, the commands for such works are shown:





              • path ... node ... (1.1)



                or node ... (1.2)




              • path ... coordinate ... (2.1)



                or coordinate ... (2.2)





              coordinate ... node ... are not present for the same job! In fact, since coordinate is the same as path coordinate so coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; is understood as



              path coordinate (x) at (4,0);  % or `coordinate (x) at (4,0);
              path node[right] {$x$}; % (0,0) in case no coordinates are specified



              This makes the outputs of coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; and node[right] at (x) {$x$}; not the same at all.



              That is why we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              coordinate (x) at (2,0) node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (x) circle (1pt)
              (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              and we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              node[draw] (x) at (2,0) {Hello} node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              So how to solve it? We can't combine (2.2) or (1.2) with ... node ..., but we can do it with (1.1) or (2.1):



              path (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};


              Remember that draw, fill, filldraw... are all daughters of path, so they are all valid. But node and coordinate are not – they are less general versions of path..





              I found this using the draw powerful trick :)






              share|improve this answer















              In section 17.2.1 of the TikZ manual, the commands for such works are shown:





              • path ... node ... (1.1)



                or node ... (1.2)




              • path ... coordinate ... (2.1)



                or coordinate ... (2.2)





              coordinate ... node ... are not present for the same job! In fact, since coordinate is the same as path coordinate so coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; is understood as



              path coordinate (x) at (4,0);  % or `coordinate (x) at (4,0);
              path node[right] {$x$}; % (0,0) in case no coordinates are specified



              This makes the outputs of coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; and node[right] at (x) {$x$}; not the same at all.



              That is why we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              coordinate (x) at (2,0) node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (x) circle (1pt)
              (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              and we get



              enter image description here



              with this code



              documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              node[draw] (x) at (2,0) {Hello} node[draw,right] {world};
              fill (0,0) circle (1pt);
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              So how to solve it? We can't combine (2.2) or (1.2) with ... node ..., but we can do it with (1.1) or (2.1):



              path (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};


              Remember that draw, fill, filldraw... are all daughters of path, so they are all valid. But node and coordinate are not – they are less general versions of path..





              I found this using the draw powerful trick :)







              share|improve this answer














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              It doesn't give you the expected result because the syntax is not appropriate. (At which level do you expect an explanation? Does it help that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; at (4,0) got "absorbed" by coordinate (x) so that TikZ adds the default coordinate (0,0) to interpret node[right] {$x$}?) You can condense all statements to one line.



              documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
              begin{document}
              begin{tikzpicture}
              draw[<->,thick] (0,3) coordinate (y) node[above] {$y$} |- (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};
              end{tikzpicture}
              end{document}


              enter image description here






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                It doesn't give you the expected result because the syntax is not appropriate. (At which level do you expect an explanation? Does it help that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; at (4,0) got "absorbed" by coordinate (x) so that TikZ adds the default coordinate (0,0) to interpret node[right] {$x$}?) You can condense all statements to one line.



                documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
                begin{document}
                begin{tikzpicture}
                draw[<->,thick] (0,3) coordinate (y) node[above] {$y$} |- (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};
                end{tikzpicture}
                end{document}


                enter image description here






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                  It doesn't give you the expected result because the syntax is not appropriate. (At which level do you expect an explanation? Does it help that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; at (4,0) got "absorbed" by coordinate (x) so that TikZ adds the default coordinate (0,0) to interpret node[right] {$x$}?) You can condense all statements to one line.



                  documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
                  begin{document}
                  begin{tikzpicture}
                  draw[<->,thick] (0,3) coordinate (y) node[above] {$y$} |- (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};
                  end{tikzpicture}
                  end{document}


                  enter image description here






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                  It doesn't give you the expected result because the syntax is not appropriate. (At which level do you expect an explanation? Does it help that in coordinate (x) at (4,0) node[right] {$x$}; at (4,0) got "absorbed" by coordinate (x) so that TikZ adds the default coordinate (0,0) to interpret node[right] {$x$}?) You can condense all statements to one line.



                  documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
                  begin{document}
                  begin{tikzpicture}
                  draw[<->,thick] (0,3) coordinate (y) node[above] {$y$} |- (4,0) coordinate (x) node[right] {$x$};
                  end{tikzpicture}
                  end{document}


                  enter image description here







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