Voltage of sounds of MP3 files
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What is the maximum voltage for common music files?
When playing back on a smartphone, if the volume of the smartphone is set to maximum, how much voltage is sent to the earphones of the electric signal?
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What is the maximum voltage for common music files?
When playing back on a smartphone, if the volume of the smartphone is set to maximum, how much voltage is sent to the earphones of the electric signal?
voltage sound
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question ishow loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
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Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
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– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
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The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
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– J...
21 hours ago
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago
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What is the maximum voltage for common music files?
When playing back on a smartphone, if the volume of the smartphone is set to maximum, how much voltage is sent to the earphones of the electric signal?
voltage sound
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What is the maximum voltage for common music files?
When playing back on a smartphone, if the volume of the smartphone is set to maximum, how much voltage is sent to the earphones of the electric signal?
voltage sound
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edited 5 hours ago
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question ishow loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
1
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Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
7
$begingroup$
The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
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– J...
21 hours ago
1
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago
add a comment |
9
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question ishow loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
1
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Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
7
$begingroup$
The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
$endgroup$
– J...
21 hours ago
1
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago
9
9
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question is
how loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question is
how loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
1
1
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Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
7
7
$begingroup$
The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
$endgroup$
– J...
21 hours ago
$begingroup$
The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
$endgroup$
– J...
21 hours ago
1
1
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago
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Amplification
It does not depend on the music file, but at the amplifier sending the music to a speaker, or to a headphone/earplug connector.
Music file
A music file only contains 'values', and mostly in a compressed form. After uncompressing, you get values which has a certain amount on bits per value (typically 16 or more).
Conversion
A microcontroller can send these values to a speaker via an pre- and/or amplifier, which converts it into actual voltages. So it depends on the amount of amplification.
Protection
Also note that sending continuous 'max values' do not result in a loud sound, actually it would breaks the speaker (to prevent this, in the amplifier a so-called DC speaker protection is present). A wave is needed to let the speaker move outwards and inwards very fast, and this is done by sending changing values to the speaker.
Measure
If you want to measure, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the audio output while sending a sine wave with a maximum amplitude.
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9
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Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
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– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
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@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
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– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
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@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
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– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
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@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
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– Mołot
4 hours ago
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@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
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– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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These days a lot of DAC chips for consumer equipment use voltage output of 2 Vrms.
The supply voltage is largely irrelevant, as a lot of DAC chips also use internal charge pumps to boost up supply voltage and to generate negative supply voltage for the audio output stage, so they can drive DC coupled loads directly.
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"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
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– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
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Normally it's limited by the cellphone battery voltage, which is about 3.7V. However there are other limits in play like the EU volume limit of 100dB - which is specified as SPL rather than a voltage.
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Amplification
It does not depend on the music file, but at the amplifier sending the music to a speaker, or to a headphone/earplug connector.
Music file
A music file only contains 'values', and mostly in a compressed form. After uncompressing, you get values which has a certain amount on bits per value (typically 16 or more).
Conversion
A microcontroller can send these values to a speaker via an pre- and/or amplifier, which converts it into actual voltages. So it depends on the amount of amplification.
Protection
Also note that sending continuous 'max values' do not result in a loud sound, actually it would breaks the speaker (to prevent this, in the amplifier a so-called DC speaker protection is present). A wave is needed to let the speaker move outwards and inwards very fast, and this is done by sending changing values to the speaker.
Measure
If you want to measure, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the audio output while sending a sine wave with a maximum amplitude.
$endgroup$
9
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Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
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– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
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@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
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– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
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@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
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– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
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@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
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– Mołot
4 hours ago
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@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
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– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Amplification
It does not depend on the music file, but at the amplifier sending the music to a speaker, or to a headphone/earplug connector.
Music file
A music file only contains 'values', and mostly in a compressed form. After uncompressing, you get values which has a certain amount on bits per value (typically 16 or more).
Conversion
A microcontroller can send these values to a speaker via an pre- and/or amplifier, which converts it into actual voltages. So it depends on the amount of amplification.
Protection
Also note that sending continuous 'max values' do not result in a loud sound, actually it would breaks the speaker (to prevent this, in the amplifier a so-called DC speaker protection is present). A wave is needed to let the speaker move outwards and inwards very fast, and this is done by sending changing values to the speaker.
Measure
If you want to measure, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the audio output while sending a sine wave with a maximum amplitude.
$endgroup$
9
$begingroup$
Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Amplification
It does not depend on the music file, but at the amplifier sending the music to a speaker, or to a headphone/earplug connector.
Music file
A music file only contains 'values', and mostly in a compressed form. After uncompressing, you get values which has a certain amount on bits per value (typically 16 or more).
Conversion
A microcontroller can send these values to a speaker via an pre- and/or amplifier, which converts it into actual voltages. So it depends on the amount of amplification.
Protection
Also note that sending continuous 'max values' do not result in a loud sound, actually it would breaks the speaker (to prevent this, in the amplifier a so-called DC speaker protection is present). A wave is needed to let the speaker move outwards and inwards very fast, and this is done by sending changing values to the speaker.
Measure
If you want to measure, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the audio output while sending a sine wave with a maximum amplitude.
$endgroup$
Amplification
It does not depend on the music file, but at the amplifier sending the music to a speaker, or to a headphone/earplug connector.
Music file
A music file only contains 'values', and mostly in a compressed form. After uncompressing, you get values which has a certain amount on bits per value (typically 16 or more).
Conversion
A microcontroller can send these values to a speaker via an pre- and/or amplifier, which converts it into actual voltages. So it depends on the amount of amplification.
Protection
Also note that sending continuous 'max values' do not result in a loud sound, actually it would breaks the speaker (to prevent this, in the amplifier a so-called DC speaker protection is present). A wave is needed to let the speaker move outwards and inwards very fast, and this is done by sending changing values to the speaker.
Measure
If you want to measure, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the audio output while sending a sine wave with a maximum amplitude.
edited 1 hour ago
answered 23 hours ago
Michel KeijzersMichel Keijzers
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Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
9
$begingroup$
Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
9
9
$begingroup$
Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
Re, "...actually it breaks the speaker." If I can create a sound file that blows your speakers when you play it, the fault is not in my file. Your music player should at least be able to survive any sound file that you try to play.
$endgroup$
– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Good point, I updated my answer (and learnt something myself from it).
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
23 hours ago
3
3
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@SolomonSlow Some speakers won't be very happy if you play a mono-tone at a resonant frequency; And it happens quite often with sub woofer speakers; I'm sure you've heard some where the cone has been damaged. I agree the ideal is that the speaker should survive any input; but realistically if you find the right resonant frequency the damping of the speaker might not be sufficient to protect it.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
13 hours ago
$begingroup$
@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@UKMonkey I'd reword it to "music system should survive any sound that can be reasonably expected to happen during normal use". And I agree that many sub woofers are badly (or rather - cheaply) designed and do not.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Mołot no - I would say that a speaker shouldn't be damaged by the amplifier for any output of the amp within the acceptable ranges supported by the speaker. This means that if the speaker needs to be rated for a lower voltage (be it by shipping with a different amp or something else) to ensure it doesn't self destruct at 20Hz; then that's what it needs to do.
$endgroup$
– UKMonkey
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
These days a lot of DAC chips for consumer equipment use voltage output of 2 Vrms.
The supply voltage is largely irrelevant, as a lot of DAC chips also use internal charge pumps to boost up supply voltage and to generate negative supply voltage for the audio output stage, so they can drive DC coupled loads directly.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
$endgroup$
– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
These days a lot of DAC chips for consumer equipment use voltage output of 2 Vrms.
The supply voltage is largely irrelevant, as a lot of DAC chips also use internal charge pumps to boost up supply voltage and to generate negative supply voltage for the audio output stage, so they can drive DC coupled loads directly.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
$endgroup$
– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
These days a lot of DAC chips for consumer equipment use voltage output of 2 Vrms.
The supply voltage is largely irrelevant, as a lot of DAC chips also use internal charge pumps to boost up supply voltage and to generate negative supply voltage for the audio output stage, so they can drive DC coupled loads directly.
$endgroup$
These days a lot of DAC chips for consumer equipment use voltage output of 2 Vrms.
The supply voltage is largely irrelevant, as a lot of DAC chips also use internal charge pumps to boost up supply voltage and to generate negative supply voltage for the audio output stage, so they can drive DC coupled loads directly.
edited 4 hours ago
answered 18 hours ago
JustmeJustme
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"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
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– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
$endgroup$
– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
$endgroup$
– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"2 Vrms" here means 2 volts on average, where RMS (root mean square) is the method of calculating the average.
$endgroup$
– Sjoerd
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Normally it's limited by the cellphone battery voltage, which is about 3.7V. However there are other limits in play like the EU volume limit of 100dB - which is specified as SPL rather than a voltage.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Normally it's limited by the cellphone battery voltage, which is about 3.7V. However there are other limits in play like the EU volume limit of 100dB - which is specified as SPL rather than a voltage.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Normally it's limited by the cellphone battery voltage, which is about 3.7V. However there are other limits in play like the EU volume limit of 100dB - which is specified as SPL rather than a voltage.
$endgroup$
Normally it's limited by the cellphone battery voltage, which is about 3.7V. However there are other limits in play like the EU volume limit of 100dB - which is specified as SPL rather than a voltage.
answered 22 hours ago
pjc50pjc50
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if you really think about what you asked, then you will realise that you asked the kind of question that is un-answerable .... you did not define the parameters of the music file contents ........ a similar un-answerable question is
how loud is music?
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– jsotola
23 hours ago
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Perhaps this is a question about the electrical interface between an audio device and a headphone or earphone set rather than a question about sampled audio data.
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– Solomon Slow
23 hours ago
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The MP3 records sound intensity in a range between zero and maximum. The hardware playing the MP3 decides what "Maximum" means.
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– J...
21 hours ago
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It depends on the phone and the earphone impedance, but iPhone 6 produces a maximum of about 1V RMS according to this link: anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/11
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– Ken Shirriff
21 hours ago