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I'm learning the CLI interface of Advanced Packaging Tool. From the output of apt(8) when its stdout isn't a terminal, it isn't suitable for "scripts expecting stable programming interface", so I'm taking a look at apt-get(8).



One difference between apt update and apt-get update is that the latter is missing a final line after all cache has been updated:



8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.


I want to know how I can get this exact line displayed with apt-get(8).










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    I'm learning the CLI interface of Advanced Packaging Tool. From the output of apt(8) when its stdout isn't a terminal, it isn't suitable for "scripts expecting stable programming interface", so I'm taking a look at apt-get(8).



    One difference between apt update and apt-get update is that the latter is missing a final line after all cache has been updated:



    8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.


    I want to know how I can get this exact line displayed with apt-get(8).










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      I'm learning the CLI interface of Advanced Packaging Tool. From the output of apt(8) when its stdout isn't a terminal, it isn't suitable for "scripts expecting stable programming interface", so I'm taking a look at apt-get(8).



      One difference between apt update and apt-get update is that the latter is missing a final line after all cache has been updated:



      8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.


      I want to know how I can get this exact line displayed with apt-get(8).










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      I'm learning the CLI interface of Advanced Packaging Tool. From the output of apt(8) when its stdout isn't a terminal, it isn't suitable for "scripts expecting stable programming interface", so I'm taking a look at apt-get(8).



      One difference between apt update and apt-get update is that the latter is missing a final line after all cache has been updated:



      8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.


      I want to know how I can get this exact line displayed with apt-get(8).







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          man apt-get shows:



             -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
          No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur based on
          the current system state but do not actually change the system.
          Locking will be disabled (Debug::NoLocking) so the system state
          could change while apt-get is running. Simulations can also be
          executed by non-root users which might not have read access to all
          apt configuration distorting the simulation. A notice expressing
          this warning is also shown by default for non-root users
          (APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note). Configuration Item:
          APT::Get::Simulate.


          So if you just do:



          apt-get upgrade --dry-run



          it will output:



          ...
          4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
          ...





          share|improve this answer
























          • Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

            – iBug
            yesterday











          • Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

            – tudor
            yesterday











          • apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

            – iBug
            yesterday






          • 1





            Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

            – tudor
            yesterday






          • 4





            Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

            – tudor
            yesterday





















          3














          Guessing you need to handle the number of available updates, here is a suggestion:



          # With no option, returns two numbers, no CR nor LF
          /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check

          # With --human-readable, returns numbers, locale LANG text & CR/LF
          /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable


          No need to sudo

          The output is easy to work with



          More options:



          > /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  --help
          Usage: apt-check [options]

          Options:
          -h, --help show this help message and exit
          -p, --package-names Show the packages that are going to be
          installed/upgraded
          --human-readable Show human readable output on stdout
          --security-updates-unattended
          Return the time in days when security updates are
          installed unattended (0 means disabled)





          share|improve this answer
























          • Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

            – iBug
            yesterday













          • yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

            – cmak.fr
            yesterday



















          1














          From man 8 apt:




          ... enables some options ...




          Then I went through /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz (using zcat(1) to show text content) and noticed this option:



          apt::cmd::show-update-stats


          So I worked out the following command that did exactly what I wanted:



          # apt-get -o apt::cmd::show-update-stats=true update


          Tested to be working on Xenial and Bionic.






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            man apt-get shows:



               -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
            No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur based on
            the current system state but do not actually change the system.
            Locking will be disabled (Debug::NoLocking) so the system state
            could change while apt-get is running. Simulations can also be
            executed by non-root users which might not have read access to all
            apt configuration distorting the simulation. A notice expressing
            this warning is also shown by default for non-root users
            (APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note). Configuration Item:
            APT::Get::Simulate.


            So if you just do:



            apt-get upgrade --dry-run



            it will output:



            ...
            4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
            ...





            share|improve this answer
























            • Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

              – iBug
              yesterday











            • Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

              – tudor
              yesterday











            • apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

              – iBug
              yesterday






            • 1





              Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

              – tudor
              yesterday






            • 4





              Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

              – tudor
              yesterday


















            8














            man apt-get shows:



               -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
            No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur based on
            the current system state but do not actually change the system.
            Locking will be disabled (Debug::NoLocking) so the system state
            could change while apt-get is running. Simulations can also be
            executed by non-root users which might not have read access to all
            apt configuration distorting the simulation. A notice expressing
            this warning is also shown by default for non-root users
            (APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note). Configuration Item:
            APT::Get::Simulate.


            So if you just do:



            apt-get upgrade --dry-run



            it will output:



            ...
            4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
            ...





            share|improve this answer
























            • Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

              – iBug
              yesterday











            • Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

              – tudor
              yesterday











            • apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

              – iBug
              yesterday






            • 1





              Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

              – tudor
              yesterday






            • 4





              Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

              – tudor
              yesterday
















            8












            8








            8







            man apt-get shows:



               -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
            No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur based on
            the current system state but do not actually change the system.
            Locking will be disabled (Debug::NoLocking) so the system state
            could change while apt-get is running. Simulations can also be
            executed by non-root users which might not have read access to all
            apt configuration distorting the simulation. A notice expressing
            this warning is also shown by default for non-root users
            (APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note). Configuration Item:
            APT::Get::Simulate.


            So if you just do:



            apt-get upgrade --dry-run



            it will output:



            ...
            4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
            ...





            share|improve this answer













            man apt-get shows:



               -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
            No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur based on
            the current system state but do not actually change the system.
            Locking will be disabled (Debug::NoLocking) so the system state
            could change while apt-get is running. Simulations can also be
            executed by non-root users which might not have read access to all
            apt configuration distorting the simulation. A notice expressing
            this warning is also shown by default for non-root users
            (APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note). Configuration Item:
            APT::Get::Simulate.


            So if you just do:



            apt-get upgrade --dry-run



            it will output:



            ...
            4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
            ...






            share|improve this answer












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            • Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

              – iBug
              yesterday











            • Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

              – tudor
              yesterday











            • apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

              – iBug
              yesterday






            • 1





              Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

              – tudor
              yesterday






            • 4





              Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

              – tudor
              yesterday





















            • Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

              – iBug
              yesterday











            • Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

              – tudor
              yesterday











            • apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

              – iBug
              yesterday






            • 1





              Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

              – tudor
              yesterday






            • 4





              Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

              – tudor
              yesterday



















            Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

            – iBug
            yesterday





            Yeah, I went through man 8 apt-get and found that option, but the output was different from apt.

            – iBug
            yesterday













            Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

            – tudor
            yesterday





            Different how? I just checked on my system and it's identical. I thought it was identical because apt is really a programmatic wrapper around apt-get and that's the reason why the warning exists.

            – tudor
            yesterday













            apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

            – iBug
            yesterday





            apt shows 8 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them., while your answer shows 4 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

            – iBug
            yesterday




            1




            1





            Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

            – tudor
            yesterday





            Yes, that's because you have 8 to upgrade where I have 4. Or are you referring to the text being different?

            – tudor
            yesterday




            4




            4





            Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

            – tudor
            yesterday







            Yes, that's exactly what the warning is about. apt will not guarantee you that text, and they may not even guarantee you that number. apt-get however has a strict output requirement because it's used by other softwares (like UIs and daemons) to process it in various ways. So you can either change your code to accept apt-get's output or you can | sed 's/to upgrade/packages can be upgraded/g', for example (and risk your code breaking later).

            – tudor
            yesterday















            3














            Guessing you need to handle the number of available updates, here is a suggestion:



            # With no option, returns two numbers, no CR nor LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check

            # With --human-readable, returns numbers, locale LANG text & CR/LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable


            No need to sudo

            The output is easy to work with



            More options:



            > /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  --help
            Usage: apt-check [options]

            Options:
            -h, --help show this help message and exit
            -p, --package-names Show the packages that are going to be
            installed/upgraded
            --human-readable Show human readable output on stdout
            --security-updates-unattended
            Return the time in days when security updates are
            installed unattended (0 means disabled)





            share|improve this answer
























            • Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

              – iBug
              yesterday













            • yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

              – cmak.fr
              yesterday
















            3














            Guessing you need to handle the number of available updates, here is a suggestion:



            # With no option, returns two numbers, no CR nor LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check

            # With --human-readable, returns numbers, locale LANG text & CR/LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable


            No need to sudo

            The output is easy to work with



            More options:



            > /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  --help
            Usage: apt-check [options]

            Options:
            -h, --help show this help message and exit
            -p, --package-names Show the packages that are going to be
            installed/upgraded
            --human-readable Show human readable output on stdout
            --security-updates-unattended
            Return the time in days when security updates are
            installed unattended (0 means disabled)





            share|improve this answer
























            • Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

              – iBug
              yesterday













            • yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

              – cmak.fr
              yesterday














            3












            3








            3







            Guessing you need to handle the number of available updates, here is a suggestion:



            # With no option, returns two numbers, no CR nor LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check

            # With --human-readable, returns numbers, locale LANG text & CR/LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable


            No need to sudo

            The output is easy to work with



            More options:



            > /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  --help
            Usage: apt-check [options]

            Options:
            -h, --help show this help message and exit
            -p, --package-names Show the packages that are going to be
            installed/upgraded
            --human-readable Show human readable output on stdout
            --security-updates-unattended
            Return the time in days when security updates are
            installed unattended (0 means disabled)





            share|improve this answer













            Guessing you need to handle the number of available updates, here is a suggestion:



            # With no option, returns two numbers, no CR nor LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check

            # With --human-readable, returns numbers, locale LANG text & CR/LF
            /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable


            No need to sudo

            The output is easy to work with



            More options:



            > /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  --help
            Usage: apt-check [options]

            Options:
            -h, --help show this help message and exit
            -p, --package-names Show the packages that are going to be
            installed/upgraded
            --human-readable Show human readable output on stdout
            --security-updates-unattended
            Return the time in days when security updates are
            installed unattended (0 means disabled)






            share|improve this answer












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            • Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

              – iBug
              yesterday













            • yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

              – cmak.fr
              yesterday



















            • Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

              – iBug
              yesterday













            • yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

              – cmak.fr
              yesterday

















            Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

            – iBug
            yesterday







            Is this the exact thing used to generate motd on SSH login?

            – iBug
            yesterday















            yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

            – cmak.fr
            yesterday





            yes it looks like the same output, but i dunno how does motd

            – cmak.fr
            yesterday











            1














            From man 8 apt:




            ... enables some options ...




            Then I went through /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz (using zcat(1) to show text content) and noticed this option:



            apt::cmd::show-update-stats


            So I worked out the following command that did exactly what I wanted:



            # apt-get -o apt::cmd::show-update-stats=true update


            Tested to be working on Xenial and Bionic.






            share|improve this answer




























              1














              From man 8 apt:




              ... enables some options ...




              Then I went through /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz (using zcat(1) to show text content) and noticed this option:



              apt::cmd::show-update-stats


              So I worked out the following command that did exactly what I wanted:



              # apt-get -o apt::cmd::show-update-stats=true update


              Tested to be working on Xenial and Bionic.






              share|improve this answer


























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                From man 8 apt:




                ... enables some options ...




                Then I went through /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz (using zcat(1) to show text content) and noticed this option:



                apt::cmd::show-update-stats


                So I worked out the following command that did exactly what I wanted:



                # apt-get -o apt::cmd::show-update-stats=true update


                Tested to be working on Xenial and Bionic.






                share|improve this answer













                From man 8 apt:




                ... enables some options ...




                Then I went through /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz (using zcat(1) to show text content) and noticed this option:



                apt::cmd::show-update-stats


                So I worked out the following command that did exactly what I wanted:



                # apt-get -o apt::cmd::show-update-stats=true update


                Tested to be working on Xenial and Bionic.







                share|improve this answer












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