What do different value notes on the same line mean?
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I'm learning music theory on my own and thus, I encounter some difficulties in understanding them.This is one of those difficulties.What do those notes (circled in red) mean as each of them has different values? How should I play them on the piano? How are they related with tempo?
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I'm learning music theory on my own and thus, I encounter some difficulties in understanding them.This is one of those difficulties.What do those notes (circled in red) mean as each of them has different values? How should I play them on the piano? How are they related with tempo?
theory piano sheet-music
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I'm learning music theory on my own and thus, I encounter some difficulties in understanding them.This is one of those difficulties.What do those notes (circled in red) mean as each of them has different values? How should I play them on the piano? How are they related with tempo?
theory piano sheet-music
I'm learning music theory on my own and thus, I encounter some difficulties in understanding them.This is one of those difficulties.What do those notes (circled in red) mean as each of them has different values? How should I play them on the piano? How are they related with tempo?
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Here's another way to view it which might help. Imagine that the music is being by four instruments or voices which can only play one note at a time. Maybe a string quartet or four singers (SATB). Let's imagine a string quartet: violin 1, violin 2, viola, and cello. Each has a part with just one line of your music.
Violin 1 has the tune: the top line and plays those short notes.
Violin 2 and the viola have long notes. The first for each lasting the whole first two bars.
The cello plays single beat notes.
Now, back to the piano: you need to replicate that effect by yourself. So, as Tim says, you need to hold the initial E and B in the right hand for two bars with two fingers while the remaining fingers play the tune. Sometimes, you can use the right pedal to get the held effect without actually holding down the notes but not in this case as it would mess up the top line.
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
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It's in 3/4, and those notes on the treble clef with the tails going down are held for each full bar - all three beats (dotted minims). And because they're also tied to the same notes in the next bar, they get held on for another three beats - six in all.
So while you hold those keys down with thumb and index or middle finger, the other fingers of r.h. are playing the tails up notes, the first of which (a very short note duration) is played at the same time as the dotted minims.
1
Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
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In general, these notes with the stems facing the other direction indicated that it's a >second voice<
If you have any notation program, just look up how you can change a voice from voice 1 to voice two. This example above is what you will get.
It basically just means, that you have to see both voices as an independent (melody) line. Sometimes you're able to play the second voice as well and it's just written like that to make it look easier on paper for you. If you would write it in just one voice, you would get way too many unnecessary ties and it would look like this:
In this case you would hold down the B and E two full bars with your thumb and index finger, while playing the top line with your other three fingers for example.
Sometimes these lines are written for multiple players, like a piano duo. In this case Piano 1 would play the top line (Voice one) and Piano two the second one (Voice two).
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
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As for how to play them, it's much easier (conceptually) than it might seem. Ignore the notes with the stems facing up; you know how to play the two bottom notes. Now ignore the two bottom notes; you know how to play the notes with the stems facing up. Now do both at once.
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Hold your finders down on the longer notes and play the shorter notes meanwhile :)
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
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Here's another way to view it which might help. Imagine that the music is being by four instruments or voices which can only play one note at a time. Maybe a string quartet or four singers (SATB). Let's imagine a string quartet: violin 1, violin 2, viola, and cello. Each has a part with just one line of your music.
Violin 1 has the tune: the top line and plays those short notes.
Violin 2 and the viola have long notes. The first for each lasting the whole first two bars.
The cello plays single beat notes.
Now, back to the piano: you need to replicate that effect by yourself. So, as Tim says, you need to hold the initial E and B in the right hand for two bars with two fingers while the remaining fingers play the tune. Sometimes, you can use the right pedal to get the held effect without actually holding down the notes but not in this case as it would mess up the top line.
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
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Here's another way to view it which might help. Imagine that the music is being by four instruments or voices which can only play one note at a time. Maybe a string quartet or four singers (SATB). Let's imagine a string quartet: violin 1, violin 2, viola, and cello. Each has a part with just one line of your music.
Violin 1 has the tune: the top line and plays those short notes.
Violin 2 and the viola have long notes. The first for each lasting the whole first two bars.
The cello plays single beat notes.
Now, back to the piano: you need to replicate that effect by yourself. So, as Tim says, you need to hold the initial E and B in the right hand for two bars with two fingers while the remaining fingers play the tune. Sometimes, you can use the right pedal to get the held effect without actually holding down the notes but not in this case as it would mess up the top line.
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
add a comment |
Here's another way to view it which might help. Imagine that the music is being by four instruments or voices which can only play one note at a time. Maybe a string quartet or four singers (SATB). Let's imagine a string quartet: violin 1, violin 2, viola, and cello. Each has a part with just one line of your music.
Violin 1 has the tune: the top line and plays those short notes.
Violin 2 and the viola have long notes. The first for each lasting the whole first two bars.
The cello plays single beat notes.
Now, back to the piano: you need to replicate that effect by yourself. So, as Tim says, you need to hold the initial E and B in the right hand for two bars with two fingers while the remaining fingers play the tune. Sometimes, you can use the right pedal to get the held effect without actually holding down the notes but not in this case as it would mess up the top line.
Here's another way to view it which might help. Imagine that the music is being by four instruments or voices which can only play one note at a time. Maybe a string quartet or four singers (SATB). Let's imagine a string quartet: violin 1, violin 2, viola, and cello. Each has a part with just one line of your music.
Violin 1 has the tune: the top line and plays those short notes.
Violin 2 and the viola have long notes. The first for each lasting the whole first two bars.
The cello plays single beat notes.
Now, back to the piano: you need to replicate that effect by yourself. So, as Tim says, you need to hold the initial E and B in the right hand for two bars with two fingers while the remaining fingers play the tune. Sometimes, you can use the right pedal to get the held effect without actually holding down the notes but not in this case as it would mess up the top line.
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answered May 26 at 11:03
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Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
add a comment |
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Thank you so much :) I used to neglect those notes, but they turn out to be so necessary.By the way, your string quartet explanation was incredible :)
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:20
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Sostenuto pedal might be used instead of the sustain pedal if present.
– Viktor Mellgren
May 27 at 8:39
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
Yes though I suspect that the OP needs a fairly simple answer. (OP, my apologies if I an underestimating you. It is very hard to judge in this format.)
– badjohn
May 27 at 8:41
add a comment |
It's in 3/4, and those notes on the treble clef with the tails going down are held for each full bar - all three beats (dotted minims). And because they're also tied to the same notes in the next bar, they get held on for another three beats - six in all.
So while you hold those keys down with thumb and index or middle finger, the other fingers of r.h. are playing the tails up notes, the first of which (a very short note duration) is played at the same time as the dotted minims.
1
Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
add a comment |
It's in 3/4, and those notes on the treble clef with the tails going down are held for each full bar - all three beats (dotted minims). And because they're also tied to the same notes in the next bar, they get held on for another three beats - six in all.
So while you hold those keys down with thumb and index or middle finger, the other fingers of r.h. are playing the tails up notes, the first of which (a very short note duration) is played at the same time as the dotted minims.
1
Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
add a comment |
It's in 3/4, and those notes on the treble clef with the tails going down are held for each full bar - all three beats (dotted minims). And because they're also tied to the same notes in the next bar, they get held on for another three beats - six in all.
So while you hold those keys down with thumb and index or middle finger, the other fingers of r.h. are playing the tails up notes, the first of which (a very short note duration) is played at the same time as the dotted minims.
It's in 3/4, and those notes on the treble clef with the tails going down are held for each full bar - all three beats (dotted minims). And because they're also tied to the same notes in the next bar, they get held on for another three beats - six in all.
So while you hold those keys down with thumb and index or middle finger, the other fingers of r.h. are playing the tails up notes, the first of which (a very short note duration) is played at the same time as the dotted minims.
answered May 26 at 9:57
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Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
add a comment |
1
Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
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Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
Thank you for your explanation, I kind of got the idea :) From your explanation, it is kind of legato playing without legato lines, right?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:14
add a comment |
In general, these notes with the stems facing the other direction indicated that it's a >second voice<
If you have any notation program, just look up how you can change a voice from voice 1 to voice two. This example above is what you will get.
It basically just means, that you have to see both voices as an independent (melody) line. Sometimes you're able to play the second voice as well and it's just written like that to make it look easier on paper for you. If you would write it in just one voice, you would get way too many unnecessary ties and it would look like this:
In this case you would hold down the B and E two full bars with your thumb and index finger, while playing the top line with your other three fingers for example.
Sometimes these lines are written for multiple players, like a piano duo. In this case Piano 1 would play the top line (Voice one) and Piano two the second one (Voice two).
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
add a comment |
In general, these notes with the stems facing the other direction indicated that it's a >second voice<
If you have any notation program, just look up how you can change a voice from voice 1 to voice two. This example above is what you will get.
It basically just means, that you have to see both voices as an independent (melody) line. Sometimes you're able to play the second voice as well and it's just written like that to make it look easier on paper for you. If you would write it in just one voice, you would get way too many unnecessary ties and it would look like this:
In this case you would hold down the B and E two full bars with your thumb and index finger, while playing the top line with your other three fingers for example.
Sometimes these lines are written for multiple players, like a piano duo. In this case Piano 1 would play the top line (Voice one) and Piano two the second one (Voice two).
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
add a comment |
In general, these notes with the stems facing the other direction indicated that it's a >second voice<
If you have any notation program, just look up how you can change a voice from voice 1 to voice two. This example above is what you will get.
It basically just means, that you have to see both voices as an independent (melody) line. Sometimes you're able to play the second voice as well and it's just written like that to make it look easier on paper for you. If you would write it in just one voice, you would get way too many unnecessary ties and it would look like this:
In this case you would hold down the B and E two full bars with your thumb and index finger, while playing the top line with your other three fingers for example.
Sometimes these lines are written for multiple players, like a piano duo. In this case Piano 1 would play the top line (Voice one) and Piano two the second one (Voice two).
In general, these notes with the stems facing the other direction indicated that it's a >second voice<
If you have any notation program, just look up how you can change a voice from voice 1 to voice two. This example above is what you will get.
It basically just means, that you have to see both voices as an independent (melody) line. Sometimes you're able to play the second voice as well and it's just written like that to make it look easier on paper for you. If you would write it in just one voice, you would get way too many unnecessary ties and it would look like this:
In this case you would hold down the B and E two full bars with your thumb and index finger, while playing the top line with your other three fingers for example.
Sometimes these lines are written for multiple players, like a piano duo. In this case Piano 1 would play the top line (Voice one) and Piano two the second one (Voice two).
answered May 26 at 11:19
AndyAndy
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Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
add a comment |
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
Thank you so much :) Is voice same as melody?
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 11:28
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
@Rutrasss A voice can be a melody, but it doesn't have to. The bass line is also a voice. In general, if you write for piano, you would have a melody line in the top staff and a bass line in the bottom staff. But both lines are actually voice 1, because it's played from 1 player on the piano. If you now would have for example a singer that sings together with you playing at the piano, you could write a second voice in the top staff. Then you can use the same music sheet, but the singer would sing one voice and you would play the other one.
– Andy
May 26 at 11:35
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
Thank you, it helped me a lot :) I'm having troubles understanding melodies, time signatures, rhythms, polyrhythms and other similar stuffs.I hope your explanation will help me in the future
– Rutrasss
May 26 at 12:10
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As for how to play them, it's much easier (conceptually) than it might seem. Ignore the notes with the stems facing up; you know how to play the two bottom notes. Now ignore the two bottom notes; you know how to play the notes with the stems facing up. Now do both at once.
add a comment |
As for how to play them, it's much easier (conceptually) than it might seem. Ignore the notes with the stems facing up; you know how to play the two bottom notes. Now ignore the two bottom notes; you know how to play the notes with the stems facing up. Now do both at once.
add a comment |
As for how to play them, it's much easier (conceptually) than it might seem. Ignore the notes with the stems facing up; you know how to play the two bottom notes. Now ignore the two bottom notes; you know how to play the notes with the stems facing up. Now do both at once.
As for how to play them, it's much easier (conceptually) than it might seem. Ignore the notes with the stems facing up; you know how to play the two bottom notes. Now ignore the two bottom notes; you know how to play the notes with the stems facing up. Now do both at once.
edited May 27 at 18:15
answered May 26 at 21:35
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Hold your finders down on the longer notes and play the shorter notes meanwhile :)
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
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Hold your finders down on the longer notes and play the shorter notes meanwhile :)
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
add a comment |
Hold your finders down on the longer notes and play the shorter notes meanwhile :)
Hold your finders down on the longer notes and play the shorter notes meanwhile :)
answered May 31 at 8:09
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Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
add a comment |
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
Thank you :) But when it comes to releasing the notes (either long or short), I always confuse which notes to release first, or second.And I end up releasing all the notes :D
– Rutrasss
Jun 2 at 10:27
add a comment |
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