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Could someone explain the difference between these 2 above please? Upon its win does a dark horse then become a top dog?



Would a dark horse be more similar to an underdog?






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    There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

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Could someone explain the difference between these 2 above please? Upon its win does a dark horse then become a top dog?



Would a dark horse be more similar to an underdog?






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    There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

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    May 27 at 9:28














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Could someone explain the difference between these 2 above please? Upon its win does a dark horse then become a top dog?



Would a dark horse be more similar to an underdog?






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Would a dark horse be more similar to an underdog?






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    There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

    – Colin Fine
    May 27 at 9:28














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    There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

    – Colin Fine
    May 27 at 9:28








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There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

– Colin Fine
May 27 at 9:28





There is very little in common between these expressions. "Top dog" is to do with position in a hierarchy - just winning something doesn't necessarily make one a "top dog", though it may help. "Underdog" is similarly not just something that doesn't win, but something low in a hierarchy. "Dark horse" is to do with the secret or hidden nature of something - it has no necessary connection with hierarchy.

– Colin Fine
May 27 at 9:28










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My first post on this site. I’m not a linguist, but I’m interested in linguistics.
The terms in question do not have the same meaning.
They are all common terms used in the Sports vernacular.
Top Dog refers to a competitor or team that has achieved dominance in a particular area, like the New York Yankees in a good year.
Dark Horse is usually used to describe an individual or team that “came out of nowhere” to achieve success, but was previously underrated.
Underdog is an individual or team that is statistically underrated, and not expected to succeed. It does not imply future success. It’s meaning is similar to underrated.






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  • Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

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My first post on this site. I’m not a linguist, but I’m interested in linguistics.
The terms in question do not have the same meaning.
They are all common terms used in the Sports vernacular.
Top Dog refers to a competitor or team that has achieved dominance in a particular area, like the New York Yankees in a good year.
Dark Horse is usually used to describe an individual or team that “came out of nowhere” to achieve success, but was previously underrated.
Underdog is an individual or team that is statistically underrated, and not expected to succeed. It does not imply future success. It’s meaning is similar to underrated.






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  • Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

    – Hot Licks
    May 27 at 11:54
















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My first post on this site. I’m not a linguist, but I’m interested in linguistics.
The terms in question do not have the same meaning.
They are all common terms used in the Sports vernacular.
Top Dog refers to a competitor or team that has achieved dominance in a particular area, like the New York Yankees in a good year.
Dark Horse is usually used to describe an individual or team that “came out of nowhere” to achieve success, but was previously underrated.
Underdog is an individual or team that is statistically underrated, and not expected to succeed. It does not imply future success. It’s meaning is similar to underrated.






share|improve this answer




























  • Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

    – Hot Licks
    May 27 at 11:54














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My first post on this site. I’m not a linguist, but I’m interested in linguistics.
The terms in question do not have the same meaning.
They are all common terms used in the Sports vernacular.
Top Dog refers to a competitor or team that has achieved dominance in a particular area, like the New York Yankees in a good year.
Dark Horse is usually used to describe an individual or team that “came out of nowhere” to achieve success, but was previously underrated.
Underdog is an individual or team that is statistically underrated, and not expected to succeed. It does not imply future success. It’s meaning is similar to underrated.






share|improve this answer















My first post on this site. I’m not a linguist, but I’m interested in linguistics.
The terms in question do not have the same meaning.
They are all common terms used in the Sports vernacular.
Top Dog refers to a competitor or team that has achieved dominance in a particular area, like the New York Yankees in a good year.
Dark Horse is usually used to describe an individual or team that “came out of nowhere” to achieve success, but was previously underrated.
Underdog is an individual or team that is statistically underrated, and not expected to succeed. It does not imply future success. It’s meaning is similar to underrated.







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  • Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

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  • Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

    – Hot Licks
    May 27 at 11:54

















Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

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May 27 at 11:54





Underdog: youtu.be/7XRil07h5uE

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May 27 at 11:54



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