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I recently had a paper accepted by a journal. When I looked it up on the AMS’ Mathematical Reviews, I noticed that it was previously indexed by the service but, at present, is it not. The journal is not pay-for-play, and one of the previous editors was a very famous mathematician.



I asked the handling editor about this and this person informed me that the journal could not “ensure regular periodicity over the year”. This person also informed me that the journal was removed by zbMATH.



My questions:




  1. What possible reasons are there that a journal is removed by an indexing service?

  2. Is it necessarily a sign of (lack of) quality that a journal is removed by an indexing service?






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    Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
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I recently had a paper accepted by a journal. When I looked it up on the AMS’ Mathematical Reviews, I noticed that it was previously indexed by the service but, at present, is it not. The journal is not pay-for-play, and one of the previous editors was a very famous mathematician.



I asked the handling editor about this and this person informed me that the journal could not “ensure regular periodicity over the year”. This person also informed me that the journal was removed by zbMATH.



My questions:




  1. What possible reasons are there that a journal is removed by an indexing service?

  2. Is it necessarily a sign of (lack of) quality that a journal is removed by an indexing service?






soft-question journals mathscinet







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    Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Hopkins
    yesterday








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    I suppose you could write to Math Reviews to ask them.
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
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I recently had a paper accepted by a journal. When I looked it up on the AMS’ Mathematical Reviews, I noticed that it was previously indexed by the service but, at present, is it not. The journal is not pay-for-play, and one of the previous editors was a very famous mathematician.



I asked the handling editor about this and this person informed me that the journal could not “ensure regular periodicity over the year”. This person also informed me that the journal was removed by zbMATH.



My questions:




  1. What possible reasons are there that a journal is removed by an indexing service?

  2. Is it necessarily a sign of (lack of) quality that a journal is removed by an indexing service?






soft-question journals mathscinet







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I recently had a paper accepted by a journal. When I looked it up on the AMS’ Mathematical Reviews, I noticed that it was previously indexed by the service but, at present, is it not. The journal is not pay-for-play, and one of the previous editors was a very famous mathematician.



I asked the handling editor about this and this person informed me that the journal could not “ensure regular periodicity over the year”. This person also informed me that the journal was removed by zbMATH.



My questions:




  1. What possible reasons are there that a journal is removed by an indexing service?

  2. Is it necessarily a sign of (lack of) quality that a journal is removed by an indexing service?






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    Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Hopkins
    yesterday








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    $begingroup$
    I suppose you could write to Math Reviews to ask them.
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    yesterday














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    $begingroup$
    Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Hopkins
    yesterday








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    I suppose you could write to Math Reviews to ask them.
    $endgroup$
    – Gerry Myerson
    yesterday








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Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
$endgroup$
– Brian Hopkins
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Further data for this topic are at mathscinet.ams.org/dmr/JournalList.html which includes years of MR coverage.
$endgroup$
– Brian Hopkins
yesterday






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To answer the first question: There are three main reasons why a journal would be removed from indexing lists, at least these are the three used for the Impact Factor list:



A journal may be removed if it encourages self-citation (e.g. if authors are strongly suggested to cite 5 articles recently published in this journal or if such a suggestion is made to increase the impact factor of other journals belonging to the same publisher), if its quality goes down (e.g. if its behavior will start resembling 'pay and we'll publish whatever stuff you'll send us' journals) or if it does not manage to publish new volumes regularly.



The last point, which seems to apply to the OP, is explained in more detail as follows:



A journal must be publishing according to its stated frequency to be considered for indexing. The ability to publish on time implies a healthy backlog of manuscripts essential for ongoing viability. It is not acceptable for a journal to appear chronically late, weeks or months after its cover date.



So, to answer the second question -- no: a journal that publishes irregularly may removed from indexing even if its quality is not compromised.






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    These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
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    yesterday






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    To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
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$begingroup$

To answer the first question: There are three main reasons why a journal would be removed from indexing lists, at least these are the three used for the Impact Factor list:



A journal may be removed if it encourages self-citation (e.g. if authors are strongly suggested to cite 5 articles recently published in this journal or if such a suggestion is made to increase the impact factor of other journals belonging to the same publisher), if its quality goes down (e.g. if its behavior will start resembling 'pay and we'll publish whatever stuff you'll send us' journals) or if it does not manage to publish new volumes regularly.



The last point, which seems to apply to the OP, is explained in more detail as follows:



A journal must be publishing according to its stated frequency to be considered for indexing. The ability to publish on time implies a healthy backlog of manuscripts essential for ongoing viability. It is not acceptable for a journal to appear chronically late, weeks or months after its cover date.



So, to answer the second question -- no: a journal that publishes irregularly may removed from indexing even if its quality is not compromised.






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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
    $endgroup$
    – Pietro Paparella
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    yesterday






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
    $endgroup$
    – Andreas Blass
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    yesterday
















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$begingroup$

To answer the first question: There are three main reasons why a journal would be removed from indexing lists, at least these are the three used for the Impact Factor list:



A journal may be removed if it encourages self-citation (e.g. if authors are strongly suggested to cite 5 articles recently published in this journal or if such a suggestion is made to increase the impact factor of other journals belonging to the same publisher), if its quality goes down (e.g. if its behavior will start resembling 'pay and we'll publish whatever stuff you'll send us' journals) or if it does not manage to publish new volumes regularly.



The last point, which seems to apply to the OP, is explained in more detail as follows:



A journal must be publishing according to its stated frequency to be considered for indexing. The ability to publish on time implies a healthy backlog of manuscripts essential for ongoing viability. It is not acceptable for a journal to appear chronically late, weeks or months after its cover date.



So, to answer the second question -- no: a journal that publishes irregularly may removed from indexing even if its quality is not compromised.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
    $endgroup$
    – Pietro Paparella
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    yesterday






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
    $endgroup$
    – Andreas Blass
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    yesterday














11












11








11





$begingroup$

To answer the first question: There are three main reasons why a journal would be removed from indexing lists, at least these are the three used for the Impact Factor list:



A journal may be removed if it encourages self-citation (e.g. if authors are strongly suggested to cite 5 articles recently published in this journal or if such a suggestion is made to increase the impact factor of other journals belonging to the same publisher), if its quality goes down (e.g. if its behavior will start resembling 'pay and we'll publish whatever stuff you'll send us' journals) or if it does not manage to publish new volumes regularly.



The last point, which seems to apply to the OP, is explained in more detail as follows:



A journal must be publishing according to its stated frequency to be considered for indexing. The ability to publish on time implies a healthy backlog of manuscripts essential for ongoing viability. It is not acceptable for a journal to appear chronically late, weeks or months after its cover date.



So, to answer the second question -- no: a journal that publishes irregularly may removed from indexing even if its quality is not compromised.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



To answer the first question: There are three main reasons why a journal would be removed from indexing lists, at least these are the three used for the Impact Factor list:



A journal may be removed if it encourages self-citation (e.g. if authors are strongly suggested to cite 5 articles recently published in this journal or if such a suggestion is made to increase the impact factor of other journals belonging to the same publisher), if its quality goes down (e.g. if its behavior will start resembling 'pay and we'll publish whatever stuff you'll send us' journals) or if it does not manage to publish new volumes regularly.



The last point, which seems to apply to the OP, is explained in more detail as follows:



A journal must be publishing according to its stated frequency to be considered for indexing. The ability to publish on time implies a healthy backlog of manuscripts essential for ongoing viability. It is not acceptable for a journal to appear chronically late, weeks or months after its cover date.



So, to answer the second question -- no: a journal that publishes irregularly may removed from indexing even if its quality is not compromised.







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    $begingroup$
    Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
    $endgroup$
    – Pietro Paparella
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    yesterday






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
    $endgroup$
    – Andreas Blass
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    yesterday














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
    $endgroup$
    – Pietro Paparella
    yesterday






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    yesterday






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
    $endgroup$
    – Andreas Blass
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    yesterday








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$begingroup$
Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
$endgroup$
– Pietro Paparella
yesterday




$begingroup$
Apologies, but what is ‘OP’?
$endgroup$
– Pietro Paparella
yesterday




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$begingroup$
webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
$endgroup$
– Carlo Beenakker
yesterday




$begingroup$
webopedia.com/TERM/O/op_original_poster.html
$endgroup$
– Carlo Beenakker
yesterday




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5




$begingroup$
These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
$endgroup$
– Andreas Blass
yesterday




$begingroup$
These reasons look sensible for impact factor list, but my impression is that Mathematical Reviews puts a lot of effort into covering all serious mathematical publications (provided they're not just preliminary versions of something that will really be published later). So I would be more inclined to suspect something seriously wrong, more seriously than just inability to keep to a schedule, when a journal is dropped by Mathematical Reviews.
$endgroup$
– Andreas Blass
yesterday




1




1




$begingroup$
To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
yesterday




$begingroup$
To second Andreas' comment, MR aims to index the literature, and the reviews are a different layer of information. Even papers that are really quite niche and of questionable value are at least 'indexed', even when it is very clear a review is not needed to note the poor quality.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
yesterday


















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