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Showing $sum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1$ is positive



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowIs there a closed form for the sum $sum_k=2^N N choose k frack-1k$?Evaluating a sum with binomial coefficients: $sum_k=1^n n choose k frac1k^r a^k b^n-k$Binomial Coefficients Proof: $sum_k=0^n n choose k ^2 = 2n choose n$.Sums $sum_k = 0^n k^t n choose k$ where $t$ is a positive integerNice formula for $sum_m=0^n2mchoose m2(n-m)choose n-m$?How to expand $sqrtx^6+1$ using Maclaurin's seriesSum of $m choose j$ multiplied by $2^2^j$Evaluate $sum_j=0^n(-1)^n+jnchoose jn+jchoose jfrac1(j+1)^2$Prove that $sum_k=0^n (-1)^kfrac nchoosek xchoosek ychoosek = frac y-xchoosen ychoosen$How to show that $sumlimits_k=0^n (-1)^ktfrac nchoosek x+kchoosek = fracxx+n$










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Show that the sum$$sum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1$$ is a positive rational number.




It is easy to show that it is a rational number. But I am having trouble showing that this expression is positive. It might be some binomial expansion that I could not get.










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Show that the sum$$sum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1$$ is a positive rational number.




It is easy to show that it is a rational number. But I am having trouble showing that this expression is positive. It might be some binomial expansion that I could not get.










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It is easy to show that it is a rational number. But I am having trouble showing that this expression is positive. It might be some binomial expansion that I could not get.










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Show that the sum$$sum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1$$ is a positive rational number.




It is easy to show that it is a rational number. But I am having trouble showing that this expression is positive. It might be some binomial expansion that I could not get.







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Direct proof:
$$beginsplit
sum_k=0^n nchoose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1 &=sum_k=0^n nchoose k(-1)^kint_0^1 x^n+kdx\
&=int_0^1x^nsum_k=0^n nchoose k(-x)^kdx\
&=int_0^1x^n(1-x)^ndx
endsplit$$

The latter is clearly a positive number.






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    How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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    It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
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When $k=0$ the term is positive. When $k=1$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=0$ TERM.



When $k=2$ the term is positive. When $k=3$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=2$ TERM.



.....



Get it?






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    sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
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We can specifically prove that
$$
boxedsum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1=left((2n+1)binom2nnright)^-1
$$

To see this, shuffle a deck of $2n+1$ cards numbered $1$ to $2n+1$. Consider this:




What is the probability that card number $n+1$ is in the middle of the deck, and cards numbered $1$ to $n$ are below it?




The easy answer is the fraction on the RHS. The LHS can be interpreted as an application of the principle of inclusion exclusion. Namely, we first take the probability that card number of $n+1$ is the lowest of the cards numbered $n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is the $k=0$ term. From this, for each $i=1,dots,n$, we subtract the probability that $n+1$ is the lowest of the list $i,n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is a bad event, because we want $n+1$ to be above $i$. Doing this for each $i$, we subtract $binomn1frac1n+2$. We then must add back in the doubly subtracted events, subtract the triple intersections, and so on, eventually ending with the alternating sum on the left.






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    Direct proof:
    $$beginsplit
    sum_k=0^n nchoose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1 &=sum_k=0^n nchoose k(-1)^kint_0^1 x^n+kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^nsum_k=0^n nchoose k(-x)^kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^n(1-x)^ndx
    endsplit$$

    The latter is clearly a positive number.






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      How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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      $begingroup$
      It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
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    Direct proof:
    $$beginsplit
    sum_k=0^n nchoose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1 &=sum_k=0^n nchoose k(-1)^kint_0^1 x^n+kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^nsum_k=0^n nchoose k(-x)^kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^n(1-x)^ndx
    endsplit$$

    The latter is clearly a positive number.






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      How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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      $begingroup$
      It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
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    Direct proof:
    $$beginsplit
    sum_k=0^n nchoose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1 &=sum_k=0^n nchoose k(-1)^kint_0^1 x^n+kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^nsum_k=0^n nchoose k(-x)^kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^n(1-x)^ndx
    endsplit$$

    The latter is clearly a positive number.






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    Direct proof:
    $$beginsplit
    sum_k=0^n nchoose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1 &=sum_k=0^n nchoose k(-1)^kint_0^1 x^n+kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^nsum_k=0^n nchoose k(-x)^kdx\
    &=int_0^1x^n(1-x)^ndx
    endsplit$$

    The latter is clearly a positive number.







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      How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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      Mar 22 at 5:13






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      $begingroup$
      It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
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      How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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    • 4




      $begingroup$
      It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
      $endgroup$
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      Mar 22 at 5:18















    $begingroup$
    How did you conclude that the sum is a limited integral? Do you know where can I find more on this on-line? Thanks.
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    Mar 22 at 5:13




    $begingroup$
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    $begingroup$
    It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Mar 22 at 5:18




    $begingroup$
    It's a "known trick" that $frac 1 p+1 = int_0^1x^pdx$. Then I noticed that the sum looked almost like that of the binomial theorem.
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 22 at 5:18











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    When $k=0$ the term is positive. When $k=1$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=0$ TERM.



    When $k=2$ the term is positive. When $k=3$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=2$ TERM.



    .....



    Get it?






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      sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
      $endgroup$
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      Mar 22 at 4:42















    7












    $begingroup$

    When $k=0$ the term is positive. When $k=1$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=0$ TERM.



    When $k=2$ the term is positive. When $k=3$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=2$ TERM.



    .....



    Get it?






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      sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
      $endgroup$
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    7





    $begingroup$

    When $k=0$ the term is positive. When $k=1$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=0$ TERM.



    When $k=2$ the term is positive. When $k=3$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=2$ TERM.



    .....



    Get it?






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    $endgroup$



    When $k=0$ the term is positive. When $k=1$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=0$ TERM.



    When $k=2$ the term is positive. When $k=3$ the term is negative BUT SMALLER (in absolute value) THAN THE $k=2$ TERM.



    .....



    Get it?







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      sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
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    • $begingroup$
      sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
      $endgroup$
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    $begingroup$
    sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 22 at 4:42




    $begingroup$
    sorry, I did not write question correctly. Now, I have corrected that. By looking at your answer I realized my mistake. Thanks
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    We can specifically prove that
    $$
    boxedsum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1=left((2n+1)binom2nnright)^-1
    $$

    To see this, shuffle a deck of $2n+1$ cards numbered $1$ to $2n+1$. Consider this:




    What is the probability that card number $n+1$ is in the middle of the deck, and cards numbered $1$ to $n$ are below it?




    The easy answer is the fraction on the RHS. The LHS can be interpreted as an application of the principle of inclusion exclusion. Namely, we first take the probability that card number of $n+1$ is the lowest of the cards numbered $n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is the $k=0$ term. From this, for each $i=1,dots,n$, we subtract the probability that $n+1$ is the lowest of the list $i,n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is a bad event, because we want $n+1$ to be above $i$. Doing this for each $i$, we subtract $binomn1frac1n+2$. We then must add back in the doubly subtracted events, subtract the triple intersections, and so on, eventually ending with the alternating sum on the left.






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      $begingroup$

      We can specifically prove that
      $$
      boxedsum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1=left((2n+1)binom2nnright)^-1
      $$

      To see this, shuffle a deck of $2n+1$ cards numbered $1$ to $2n+1$. Consider this:




      What is the probability that card number $n+1$ is in the middle of the deck, and cards numbered $1$ to $n$ are below it?




      The easy answer is the fraction on the RHS. The LHS can be interpreted as an application of the principle of inclusion exclusion. Namely, we first take the probability that card number of $n+1$ is the lowest of the cards numbered $n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is the $k=0$ term. From this, for each $i=1,dots,n$, we subtract the probability that $n+1$ is the lowest of the list $i,n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is a bad event, because we want $n+1$ to be above $i$. Doing this for each $i$, we subtract $binomn1frac1n+2$. We then must add back in the doubly subtracted events, subtract the triple intersections, and so on, eventually ending with the alternating sum on the left.






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        We can specifically prove that
        $$
        boxedsum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1=left((2n+1)binom2nnright)^-1
        $$

        To see this, shuffle a deck of $2n+1$ cards numbered $1$ to $2n+1$. Consider this:




        What is the probability that card number $n+1$ is in the middle of the deck, and cards numbered $1$ to $n$ are below it?




        The easy answer is the fraction on the RHS. The LHS can be interpreted as an application of the principle of inclusion exclusion. Namely, we first take the probability that card number of $n+1$ is the lowest of the cards numbered $n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is the $k=0$ term. From this, for each $i=1,dots,n$, we subtract the probability that $n+1$ is the lowest of the list $i,n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is a bad event, because we want $n+1$ to be above $i$. Doing this for each $i$, we subtract $binomn1frac1n+2$. We then must add back in the doubly subtracted events, subtract the triple intersections, and so on, eventually ending with the alternating sum on the left.






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        We can specifically prove that
        $$
        boxedsum_k=0^n n choose kfrac(-1)^kn+k+1=left((2n+1)binom2nnright)^-1
        $$

        To see this, shuffle a deck of $2n+1$ cards numbered $1$ to $2n+1$. Consider this:




        What is the probability that card number $n+1$ is in the middle of the deck, and cards numbered $1$ to $n$ are below it?




        The easy answer is the fraction on the RHS. The LHS can be interpreted as an application of the principle of inclusion exclusion. Namely, we first take the probability that card number of $n+1$ is the lowest of the cards numbered $n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is the $k=0$ term. From this, for each $i=1,dots,n$, we subtract the probability that $n+1$ is the lowest of the list $i,n+1,n+2,dots,2n+1$. This is a bad event, because we want $n+1$ to be above $i$. Doing this for each $i$, we subtract $binomn1frac1n+2$. We then must add back in the doubly subtracted events, subtract the triple intersections, and so on, eventually ending with the alternating sum on the left.







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