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This is a sentence from Chapter 3 of Guns, Germs and Steels:
These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and thus entering they occupied every part of the plaza.
How should I understand and thus entering they occupied...
thus, here, should mean like that or in that way, but why did entering follow thus?
adverbs
asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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This is a sentence from Chapter 3 of Guns, Germs and Steels:
These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and thus entering they occupied every part of the plaza.
How should I understand and thus entering they occupied...
thus, here, should mean like that or in that way, but why did entering follow thus?
adverbs
asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13
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This is a sentence from Chapter 3 of Guns, Germs and Steels:
These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and thus entering they occupied every part of the plaza.
How should I understand and thus entering they occupied...
thus, here, should mean like that or in that way, but why did entering follow thus?
adverbs
asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
1
This is a sentence from Chapter 3 of Guns, Germs and Steels:
These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and thus entering they occupied every part of the plaza.
How should I understand and thus entering they occupied...
thus, here, should mean like that or in that way, but why did entering follow thus?
adverbs
adverbs
asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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asked May 26 at 12:56
Kiki YangKiki Yang
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Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13
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Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13
1
1
Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13
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I think "entering" should have been followed by a comma: "and thus entering, they occupied every part of the plaza." "Thus entering" is an absolute construction. It has the force of an adverbial subordinate clause. Here, it is similar to saying "while entering in this fashion".
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As in:
These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and consequently they occupied every part of the plaza.
thus TDF
therefore; consequently
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I think "entering" should have been followed by a comma: "and thus entering, they occupied every part of the plaza." "Thus entering" is an absolute construction. It has the force of an adverbial subordinate clause. Here, it is similar to saying "while entering in this fashion".
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I think "entering" should have been followed by a comma: "and thus entering, they occupied every part of the plaza." "Thus entering" is an absolute construction. It has the force of an adverbial subordinate clause. Here, it is similar to saying "while entering in this fashion".
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I think "entering" should have been followed by a comma: "and thus entering, they occupied every part of the plaza." "Thus entering" is an absolute construction. It has the force of an adverbial subordinate clause. Here, it is similar to saying "while entering in this fashion".
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I think "entering" should have been followed by a comma: "and thus entering, they occupied every part of the plaza." "Thus entering" is an absolute construction. It has the force of an adverbial subordinate clause. Here, it is similar to saying "while entering in this fashion".
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These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and consequently they occupied every part of the plaza.
thus TDF
therefore; consequently
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therefore; consequently
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These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and consequently they occupied every part of the plaza.
thus TDF
therefore; consequently
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Hello, Kiki. It's old-fashioned language, and arguably a redundancy here. It can be paraphrased 'These Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs, and entering the plaza to the accompaniment of great songs they occupied every part of the plaza.' I'd drop the repeated info and write 'To the accompaniment of great songs' these Indian squadrons began to enter the plaza. They filled every part of the plaza.' (The troops filling the farthest reaches could hardly be claimed to still be 'entering'.) // If one uses 'thus entering', 'thus fulfilling the regulations',
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
... 'thus setting the factions against each other' ..., 'thus' always precedes the ing-word – usually immediately, though there may be an adverb/restricting modifier. 'thus really annoying her family' / 'thus hardly endearing herself to his mother'.
– Edwin Ashworth
May 26 at 13:59
@EdwinAshworth Thanks, Edwin - it makes sense to me!
– Kiki Yang
Jul 3 at 3:13