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How is this pattern from Pompeii also in Cappella Sansevero?
What kind of device is pictured on this Roman mosaic from Villa Tellaro, Sicily?Why are there no photorealistic paintings from the old days?Who is this person?How can I date this carved wood sculpture?Why is this Roman bust identified as Arminius?Who's the artist behind this popular painting?Why was galena used as a black pigment, when soot is more black and also more abundant?Is this painting by a famous artist?Can anyone help identify this painting? (Western, representative, c19-c21)Did Cimabue also paint the Last Supper?
The labyrinth tiles in Capella Sansevero where built between the mid 1760s to c. 1771 (according to http://www.museosansevero.it/floor/?lang=en). They look like this:
I saw the same pattern in Villa dei Misteri in Pompeii. Here's a picture:
The patterns are almost the same, and it seems unlikely to be a coincidence, specially when both buildings are quite close.
As far as I can find, the Villa was not excavated after 1909, so it would not have been known when the Capella was built. From what I've read, several buildings in Pompeii were excavated around this time, but the frescoes of these places were removed and the buildings buried again. Since the fresco in Villa is in great condition and relatively far away from the rest of Pompeii, it seems unlikely that it was unearthed and buried.
Maybe this is a somewhat common pattern and could have been found somewhere else? Or is it just a coincidence?
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The labyrinth tiles in Capella Sansevero where built between the mid 1760s to c. 1771 (according to http://www.museosansevero.it/floor/?lang=en). They look like this:
I saw the same pattern in Villa dei Misteri in Pompeii. Here's a picture:
The patterns are almost the same, and it seems unlikely to be a coincidence, specially when both buildings are quite close.
As far as I can find, the Villa was not excavated after 1909, so it would not have been known when the Capella was built. From what I've read, several buildings in Pompeii were excavated around this time, but the frescoes of these places were removed and the buildings buried again. Since the fresco in Villa is in great condition and relatively far away from the rest of Pompeii, it seems unlikely that it was unearthed and buried.
Maybe this is a somewhat common pattern and could have been found somewhere else? Or is it just a coincidence?
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I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06
add a comment |
The labyrinth tiles in Capella Sansevero where built between the mid 1760s to c. 1771 (according to http://www.museosansevero.it/floor/?lang=en). They look like this:
I saw the same pattern in Villa dei Misteri in Pompeii. Here's a picture:
The patterns are almost the same, and it seems unlikely to be a coincidence, specially when both buildings are quite close.
As far as I can find, the Villa was not excavated after 1909, so it would not have been known when the Capella was built. From what I've read, several buildings in Pompeii were excavated around this time, but the frescoes of these places were removed and the buildings buried again. Since the fresco in Villa is in great condition and relatively far away from the rest of Pompeii, it seems unlikely that it was unearthed and buried.
Maybe this is a somewhat common pattern and could have been found somewhere else? Or is it just a coincidence?
ancient-rome art
edited Mar 17 at 9:34
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The labyrinth tiles in Capella Sansevero where built between the mid 1760s to c. 1771 (according to http://www.museosansevero.it/floor/?lang=en). They look like this:
I saw the same pattern in Villa dei Misteri in Pompeii. Here's a picture:
The patterns are almost the same, and it seems unlikely to be a coincidence, specially when both buildings are quite close.
As far as I can find, the Villa was not excavated after 1909, so it would not have been known when the Capella was built. From what I've read, several buildings in Pompeii were excavated around this time, but the frescoes of these places were removed and the buildings buried again. Since the fresco in Villa is in great condition and relatively far away from the rest of Pompeii, it seems unlikely that it was unearthed and buried.
Maybe this is a somewhat common pattern and could have been found somewhere else? Or is it just a coincidence?
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I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06
add a comment |
I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06
I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06
add a comment |
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These are meander patterns that had many variations and were very common in classical Greek and Roman art. The Romans took them from the Greeks and made their own variations, and in turn they were used by neo-classical architects and artists in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
There is an interesting article on how they work here
I believe (I'll try to find a reference) that Roman builders and painters would use pattern books for this sort of thing
answered Mar 17 at 10:49
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In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
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2 days ago
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These are meander patterns that had many variations and were very common in classical Greek and Roman art. The Romans took them from the Greeks and made their own variations, and in turn they were used by neo-classical architects and artists in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
There is an interesting article on how they work here
I believe (I'll try to find a reference) that Roman builders and painters would use pattern books for this sort of thing
answered Mar 17 at 10:49
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In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
add a comment |
These are meander patterns that had many variations and were very common in classical Greek and Roman art. The Romans took them from the Greeks and made their own variations, and in turn they were used by neo-classical architects and artists in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
There is an interesting article on how they work here
I believe (I'll try to find a reference) that Roman builders and painters would use pattern books for this sort of thing
answered Mar 17 at 10:49
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
2437
In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
add a comment |
These are meander patterns that had many variations and were very common in classical Greek and Roman art. The Romans took them from the Greeks and made their own variations, and in turn they were used by neo-classical architects and artists in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
There is an interesting article on how they work here
I believe (I'll try to find a reference) that Roman builders and painters would use pattern books for this sort of thing
answered Mar 17 at 10:49
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
2437
These are meander patterns that had many variations and were very common in classical Greek and Roman art. The Romans took them from the Greeks and made their own variations, and in turn they were used by neo-classical architects and artists in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries
There is an interesting article on how they work here
I believe (I'll try to find a reference) that Roman builders and painters would use pattern books for this sort of thing
answered Mar 17 at 10:49
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
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In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
add a comment |
In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
In particular, the swastika-like device was commonly used in these patterns and concentric squares aren't exactly a trademark-able idea.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 16:50
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
Andrea Palladio popularised a return to the architectural principles of the classical era. His dates are 1508 to 1580. Cappella Sansevero dates back to 1590, so it is possible its builders had read Palladio's 'Four Books of Architecture'. I wonder if they contain descriptions of meanders
– Dave Gremlin
2 days ago
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I'm assuming your assumption is correct, and that the pattern exists/ed elsewhere.
– Orangesandlemons
Mar 17 at 8:38
The problem is with your assumption that it's unlikely to be a coincidence. Such patterns are fairly obvious, and likely to be independently developed.
– jamesqf
Mar 17 at 18:06