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Is this an example of a Neapolitan chord?
Do Neapolitan chords exist in modes with a minor second?Tritone substitution in a ii-V-I progression and chord namesIs this an 8 bar blues chord progression? How to know if it is or isn't?Is this an acceptable variation on the 12-bar blues?How to identify the chord progression and a specific chordWhat is it about the blues chord progression that makes the blues feel?Parallel chord substitutionsChord progression conveniency depending on the harmonic rhythmuse of 4/2 chord more compelling than root position?Are there any cases where the ii chord is replaced by the Neapolitan chord in the Circle of Fifths Progression?
The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
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The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
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@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
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The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
chords chord-progressions
The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
chords chord-progressions
chords chord-progressions
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
|
show 4 more comments
1
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
1
1
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
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Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
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Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
add a comment |
Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
add a comment |
Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
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That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
add a comment |
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
2 days ago
add a comment |
I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
add a comment |
I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35