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Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Is there a word that describes a person who constantly exaggerates?Word meaning something is technically accurate but overly simplisticWhat is the feeling called when you think someone is following you but really isn't?Is there a name for an argument that is also a counter-argument?What's a word for someone who wants to voice opinions but not have them challenged?What would you call a person who helps you only to later boast about it or repeatedly, emphatically mention it during a fight?What is a word for someone who knows where to hit another where it hurts?Word that describes someone who believes all their actions are justified.What's a word for a statement that is either true or false?Word for making people think you're crazy so they can't argue with you?



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    The best word would probably be "brainwashed." Did I win the prize? :)

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    The best word would probably be "brainwashed." Did I win the prize? :)

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    The best word would probably be "brainwashed." Did I win the prize? :)

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The best word would probably be "brainwashed." Did I win the prize? :)

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According to Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, doublethink is:




To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.



The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.




E.g. North Korean citizens, think, that they live in a free country and at the same time, they accept the dictatorship of Kim. Thus, they are unaware of the fact that they are free in captivity. This is a peculiar and real-life example of Doublethink.



Wikipedia article sum it up as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink




Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance1, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.




If you read the same book carefully, George Orwell coined a word and a phrase to represent doublethink in simple words. They can be used in same sense.




thoughtcrime




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two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5)




Other closely related phrase which became very famous during 2017 in U.S. is,




Alternative facts




Which means, "Alternative facts are not facts, but falsehoods."





i.e. we are forced to believe [something] which is not true.



This phrase is very much consider as an Orwellian2. There is a Wikipedia entry on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts




1: Cognitive dissonance differs from doublethink. In cognitive dissonance, contradicting belief causes conflict in the mind, whereas, in doublethink, we learn to accept contradicting ideas.



2: Refers to George Orwell, author of the book Nineteen Eighty-Four






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    "Deluded person" would be the closest term I can think of to your meaning.



    While this doesn't strictly specify that the false belief is due to a misunderstanding of facts, it does mean a rather dogged false belief. This would not be the clinical definition--which discounts faulty information--but a quick Google search or corpus search turns up uses for people who simply misunderstand something but are resistant to being corrected.




    If you, however, you meant someone who knows a particular fact is popularly misunderstood and is taking advantage of this to promote an idea, exploiting this misunderstanding, this would be 'intellectually dishonest' and a person who employs such clever, but false reasoning could well be described as a 'sophist'.






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      i like misguided- but white nationalists do this all the time. while i believe they have been severely misguided, i feel like this word even with its modifying adverb, isn't powerful enough.




      off-base (in American) US



      1. Slang taking a position or attitude that is unsound or in error

      phrase [usually verb-link PHRASE] If you say that someone is off base,
      you mean that they are wrong. [mainly US, informal] Am I wrong? Am I
      way off base? Because I want you to set me straight if you think I'm
      wrong.
      https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/off-base



      off base Incorrect; mistaken or misinformed; not aligned with reality.
      An allusion to baseball, in which baserunners are only "safe" if their
      foot is touching a "base." Hyphenated if used before a noun. Primarily
      heard in US. Your arguments would be compelling if your entire premise
      wasn't completely off base. You need to stop making these off-base
      assumptions about how the process works.
      https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+base




      i feel like the baseball analogy really brings it home for me. (ha). but seriously, they think they're on, but the ump says they're out !



      **wait, now i feel like i answered this incorrectly because i was distracted by other answers. knowing all the facts and still believe a falsehood to be true. that's like, me knowing that cigarettes are proven to have negative health impacts, but i smoke organic american spirits and think i'm above empirical statistical facts.



      i think what you are referring to may be cognitive dissonance.




      Definition Psychologist Leon Festinger first proposed a theory of
      cognitive dissonance centered on how people try to reach internal
      consistency. He suggested that people have an inner need to ensure
      that their beliefs and behaviors are consistent. Inconsistent or
      conflicting beliefs lead to disharmony, which people strive to avoid.



      In his 1957 book, A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, Festinger
      explained, "Cognitive dissonance can be seen as an antecedent
      condition which leads to activity oriented toward dissonance reduction
      just as hunger leads toward activity oriented toward hunger reduction.
      It is a very different motivation from what psychologists are used to
      dealing with but, as we shall see, nonetheless powerful."
      https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012




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      cognitive dissonance noun. (psychology)
      an uncomfortable mental state
      resulting from conflicting cognitions; usually resolved by changing
      some of the cognitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cognitive-dissonance




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      Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting
      attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental
      discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs
      or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.
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        I've heard "solecist" used to describe a person who does that.



        Definition of solecism
        1 : an ungrammatical combination of words in a sentence
        also : a minor blunder in speech
        2 : something deviating from the proper, normal, or accepted order
        3 : a breach of etiquette or decorum
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        As an example, M-W uses a quote from a New Yorker article: "In 1964, Petula Clark had a hit with “Downtown.” But the songwriter Tony Hatch has said he was inspired by Times Square—a solecism forgivable from a Brit. In native parlance, the word denotes Manhattan below Fourteenth Street."



        M-W also includes the derivation:



        The city of Soloi had a reputation for bad grammar. Located in Cilicia, an ancient coastal nation in Asia Minor, it was populated by Athenian colonists called soloikos (literally "inhabitant of Soloi"). According to historians, the colonists of Soloi allowed their native Athenian Greek to be corrupted and they fell to using words incorrectly. As a result, soloikos gained a new meaning: "speaking incorrectly." The Greeks used that sense as the basis of soloikismos, meaning "an ungrammatical combination of words." That root in turn gave rise to the Latin soloecismus, the direct ancestor of the English word solecism. Nowadays, solecism can refer to social blunders as well as sloppy syntax.






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        It sounds like "double talk" (sometimes "doublespeak"). They are more often used with deceptive intention, but can be applied in the example you give.




        They don't understand the truth in the matter, so they use half-truths
        to support their "double talk".




        https://www.thefreedictionary.com/double+talk



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          According to Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, doublethink is:




          To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.



          The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.




          E.g. North Korean citizens, think, that they live in a free country and at the same time, they accept the dictatorship of Kim. Thus, they are unaware of the fact that they are free in captivity. This is a peculiar and real-life example of Doublethink.



          Wikipedia article sum it up as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink




          Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance1, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.




          If you read the same book carefully, George Orwell coined a word and a phrase to represent doublethink in simple words. They can be used in same sense.




          thoughtcrime




          and




          two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5)




          Other closely related phrase which became very famous during 2017 in U.S. is,




          Alternative facts




          Which means, "Alternative facts are not facts, but falsehoods."





          i.e. we are forced to believe [something] which is not true.



          This phrase is very much consider as an Orwellian2. There is a Wikipedia entry on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts




          1: Cognitive dissonance differs from doublethink. In cognitive dissonance, contradicting belief causes conflict in the mind, whereas, in doublethink, we learn to accept contradicting ideas.



          2: Refers to George Orwell, author of the book Nineteen Eighty-Four






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            According to Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, doublethink is:




            To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.



            The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.




            E.g. North Korean citizens, think, that they live in a free country and at the same time, they accept the dictatorship of Kim. Thus, they are unaware of the fact that they are free in captivity. This is a peculiar and real-life example of Doublethink.



            Wikipedia article sum it up as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink




            Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance1, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.




            If you read the same book carefully, George Orwell coined a word and a phrase to represent doublethink in simple words. They can be used in same sense.




            thoughtcrime




            and




            two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5)




            Other closely related phrase which became very famous during 2017 in U.S. is,




            Alternative facts




            Which means, "Alternative facts are not facts, but falsehoods."





            i.e. we are forced to believe [something] which is not true.



            This phrase is very much consider as an Orwellian2. There is a Wikipedia entry on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts




            1: Cognitive dissonance differs from doublethink. In cognitive dissonance, contradicting belief causes conflict in the mind, whereas, in doublethink, we learn to accept contradicting ideas.



            2: Refers to George Orwell, author of the book Nineteen Eighty-Four






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              According to Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, doublethink is:




              To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.



              The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.




              E.g. North Korean citizens, think, that they live in a free country and at the same time, they accept the dictatorship of Kim. Thus, they are unaware of the fact that they are free in captivity. This is a peculiar and real-life example of Doublethink.



              Wikipedia article sum it up as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink




              Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance1, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.




              If you read the same book carefully, George Orwell coined a word and a phrase to represent doublethink in simple words. They can be used in same sense.




              thoughtcrime




              and




              two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5)




              Other closely related phrase which became very famous during 2017 in U.S. is,




              Alternative facts




              Which means, "Alternative facts are not facts, but falsehoods."





              i.e. we are forced to believe [something] which is not true.



              This phrase is very much consider as an Orwellian2. There is a Wikipedia entry on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts




              1: Cognitive dissonance differs from doublethink. In cognitive dissonance, contradicting belief causes conflict in the mind, whereas, in doublethink, we learn to accept contradicting ideas.



              2: Refers to George Orwell, author of the book Nineteen Eighty-Four






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              According to Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, doublethink is:




              To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.



              The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.




              E.g. North Korean citizens, think, that they live in a free country and at the same time, they accept the dictatorship of Kim. Thus, they are unaware of the fact that they are free in captivity. This is a peculiar and real-life example of Doublethink.



              Wikipedia article sum it up as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink




              Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance1, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.




              If you read the same book carefully, George Orwell coined a word and a phrase to represent doublethink in simple words. They can be used in same sense.




              thoughtcrime




              and




              two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5)




              Other closely related phrase which became very famous during 2017 in U.S. is,




              Alternative facts




              Which means, "Alternative facts are not facts, but falsehoods."





              i.e. we are forced to believe [something] which is not true.



              This phrase is very much consider as an Orwellian2. There is a Wikipedia entry on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts




              1: Cognitive dissonance differs from doublethink. In cognitive dissonance, contradicting belief causes conflict in the mind, whereas, in doublethink, we learn to accept contradicting ideas.



              2: Refers to George Orwell, author of the book Nineteen Eighty-Four







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                  "Deluded person" would be the closest term I can think of to your meaning.



                  While this doesn't strictly specify that the false belief is due to a misunderstanding of facts, it does mean a rather dogged false belief. This would not be the clinical definition--which discounts faulty information--but a quick Google search or corpus search turns up uses for people who simply misunderstand something but are resistant to being corrected.




                  If you, however, you meant someone who knows a particular fact is popularly misunderstood and is taking advantage of this to promote an idea, exploiting this misunderstanding, this would be 'intellectually dishonest' and a person who employs such clever, but false reasoning could well be described as a 'sophist'.






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                    "Deluded person" would be the closest term I can think of to your meaning.



                    While this doesn't strictly specify that the false belief is due to a misunderstanding of facts, it does mean a rather dogged false belief. This would not be the clinical definition--which discounts faulty information--but a quick Google search or corpus search turns up uses for people who simply misunderstand something but are resistant to being corrected.




                    If you, however, you meant someone who knows a particular fact is popularly misunderstood and is taking advantage of this to promote an idea, exploiting this misunderstanding, this would be 'intellectually dishonest' and a person who employs such clever, but false reasoning could well be described as a 'sophist'.






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                      "Deluded person" would be the closest term I can think of to your meaning.



                      While this doesn't strictly specify that the false belief is due to a misunderstanding of facts, it does mean a rather dogged false belief. This would not be the clinical definition--which discounts faulty information--but a quick Google search or corpus search turns up uses for people who simply misunderstand something but are resistant to being corrected.




                      If you, however, you meant someone who knows a particular fact is popularly misunderstood and is taking advantage of this to promote an idea, exploiting this misunderstanding, this would be 'intellectually dishonest' and a person who employs such clever, but false reasoning could well be described as a 'sophist'.






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                      "Deluded person" would be the closest term I can think of to your meaning.



                      While this doesn't strictly specify that the false belief is due to a misunderstanding of facts, it does mean a rather dogged false belief. This would not be the clinical definition--which discounts faulty information--but a quick Google search or corpus search turns up uses for people who simply misunderstand something but are resistant to being corrected.




                      If you, however, you meant someone who knows a particular fact is popularly misunderstood and is taking advantage of this to promote an idea, exploiting this misunderstanding, this would be 'intellectually dishonest' and a person who employs such clever, but false reasoning could well be described as a 'sophist'.







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                          i like misguided- but white nationalists do this all the time. while i believe they have been severely misguided, i feel like this word even with its modifying adverb, isn't powerful enough.




                          off-base (in American) US



                          1. Slang taking a position or attitude that is unsound or in error

                          phrase [usually verb-link PHRASE] If you say that someone is off base,
                          you mean that they are wrong. [mainly US, informal] Am I wrong? Am I
                          way off base? Because I want you to set me straight if you think I'm
                          wrong.
                          https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/off-base



                          off base Incorrect; mistaken or misinformed; not aligned with reality.
                          An allusion to baseball, in which baserunners are only "safe" if their
                          foot is touching a "base." Hyphenated if used before a noun. Primarily
                          heard in US. Your arguments would be compelling if your entire premise
                          wasn't completely off base. You need to stop making these off-base
                          assumptions about how the process works.
                          https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+base




                          i feel like the baseball analogy really brings it home for me. (ha). but seriously, they think they're on, but the ump says they're out !



                          **wait, now i feel like i answered this incorrectly because i was distracted by other answers. knowing all the facts and still believe a falsehood to be true. that's like, me knowing that cigarettes are proven to have negative health impacts, but i smoke organic american spirits and think i'm above empirical statistical facts.



                          i think what you are referring to may be cognitive dissonance.




                          Definition Psychologist Leon Festinger first proposed a theory of
                          cognitive dissonance centered on how people try to reach internal
                          consistency. He suggested that people have an inner need to ensure
                          that their beliefs and behaviors are consistent. Inconsistent or
                          conflicting beliefs lead to disharmony, which people strive to avoid.



                          In his 1957 book, A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, Festinger
                          explained, "Cognitive dissonance can be seen as an antecedent
                          condition which leads to activity oriented toward dissonance reduction
                          just as hunger leads toward activity oriented toward hunger reduction.
                          It is a very different motivation from what psychologists are used to
                          dealing with but, as we shall see, nonetheless powerful."
                          https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012




                          .




                          cognitive dissonance noun. (psychology)
                          an uncomfortable mental state
                          resulting from conflicting cognitions; usually resolved by changing
                          some of the cognitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cognitive-dissonance




                          one more:




                          Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting
                          attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental
                          discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs
                          or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.
                          https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html







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                            i like misguided- but white nationalists do this all the time. while i believe they have been severely misguided, i feel like this word even with its modifying adverb, isn't powerful enough.




                            off-base (in American) US



                            1. Slang taking a position or attitude that is unsound or in error

                            phrase [usually verb-link PHRASE] If you say that someone is off base,
                            you mean that they are wrong. [mainly US, informal] Am I wrong? Am I
                            way off base? Because I want you to set me straight if you think I'm
                            wrong.
                            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/off-base



                            off base Incorrect; mistaken or misinformed; not aligned with reality.
                            An allusion to baseball, in which baserunners are only "safe" if their
                            foot is touching a "base." Hyphenated if used before a noun. Primarily
                            heard in US. Your arguments would be compelling if your entire premise
                            wasn't completely off base. You need to stop making these off-base
                            assumptions about how the process works.
                            https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+base




                            i feel like the baseball analogy really brings it home for me. (ha). but seriously, they think they're on, but the ump says they're out !



                            **wait, now i feel like i answered this incorrectly because i was distracted by other answers. knowing all the facts and still believe a falsehood to be true. that's like, me knowing that cigarettes are proven to have negative health impacts, but i smoke organic american spirits and think i'm above empirical statistical facts.



                            i think what you are referring to may be cognitive dissonance.




                            Definition Psychologist Leon Festinger first proposed a theory of
                            cognitive dissonance centered on how people try to reach internal
                            consistency. He suggested that people have an inner need to ensure
                            that their beliefs and behaviors are consistent. Inconsistent or
                            conflicting beliefs lead to disharmony, which people strive to avoid.



                            In his 1957 book, A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, Festinger
                            explained, "Cognitive dissonance can be seen as an antecedent
                            condition which leads to activity oriented toward dissonance reduction
                            just as hunger leads toward activity oriented toward hunger reduction.
                            It is a very different motivation from what psychologists are used to
                            dealing with but, as we shall see, nonetheless powerful."
                            https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012




                            .




                            cognitive dissonance noun. (psychology)
                            an uncomfortable mental state
                            resulting from conflicting cognitions; usually resolved by changing
                            some of the cognitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cognitive-dissonance




                            one more:




                            Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting
                            attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental
                            discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs
                            or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.
                            https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html







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                              i like misguided- but white nationalists do this all the time. while i believe they have been severely misguided, i feel like this word even with its modifying adverb, isn't powerful enough.




                              off-base (in American) US



                              1. Slang taking a position or attitude that is unsound or in error

                              phrase [usually verb-link PHRASE] If you say that someone is off base,
                              you mean that they are wrong. [mainly US, informal] Am I wrong? Am I
                              way off base? Because I want you to set me straight if you think I'm
                              wrong.
                              https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/off-base



                              off base Incorrect; mistaken or misinformed; not aligned with reality.
                              An allusion to baseball, in which baserunners are only "safe" if their
                              foot is touching a "base." Hyphenated if used before a noun. Primarily
                              heard in US. Your arguments would be compelling if your entire premise
                              wasn't completely off base. You need to stop making these off-base
                              assumptions about how the process works.
                              https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+base




                              i feel like the baseball analogy really brings it home for me. (ha). but seriously, they think they're on, but the ump says they're out !



                              **wait, now i feel like i answered this incorrectly because i was distracted by other answers. knowing all the facts and still believe a falsehood to be true. that's like, me knowing that cigarettes are proven to have negative health impacts, but i smoke organic american spirits and think i'm above empirical statistical facts.



                              i think what you are referring to may be cognitive dissonance.




                              Definition Psychologist Leon Festinger first proposed a theory of
                              cognitive dissonance centered on how people try to reach internal
                              consistency. He suggested that people have an inner need to ensure
                              that their beliefs and behaviors are consistent. Inconsistent or
                              conflicting beliefs lead to disharmony, which people strive to avoid.



                              In his 1957 book, A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, Festinger
                              explained, "Cognitive dissonance can be seen as an antecedent
                              condition which leads to activity oriented toward dissonance reduction
                              just as hunger leads toward activity oriented toward hunger reduction.
                              It is a very different motivation from what psychologists are used to
                              dealing with but, as we shall see, nonetheless powerful."
                              https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012




                              .




                              cognitive dissonance noun. (psychology)
                              an uncomfortable mental state
                              resulting from conflicting cognitions; usually resolved by changing
                              some of the cognitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cognitive-dissonance




                              one more:




                              Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting
                              attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental
                              discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs
                              or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.
                              https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html







                              share|improve this answer















                              i like misguided- but white nationalists do this all the time. while i believe they have been severely misguided, i feel like this word even with its modifying adverb, isn't powerful enough.




                              off-base (in American) US



                              1. Slang taking a position or attitude that is unsound or in error

                              phrase [usually verb-link PHRASE] If you say that someone is off base,
                              you mean that they are wrong. [mainly US, informal] Am I wrong? Am I
                              way off base? Because I want you to set me straight if you think I'm
                              wrong.
                              https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/off-base



                              off base Incorrect; mistaken or misinformed; not aligned with reality.
                              An allusion to baseball, in which baserunners are only "safe" if their
                              foot is touching a "base." Hyphenated if used before a noun. Primarily
                              heard in US. Your arguments would be compelling if your entire premise
                              wasn't completely off base. You need to stop making these off-base
                              assumptions about how the process works.
                              https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+base




                              i feel like the baseball analogy really brings it home for me. (ha). but seriously, they think they're on, but the ump says they're out !



                              **wait, now i feel like i answered this incorrectly because i was distracted by other answers. knowing all the facts and still believe a falsehood to be true. that's like, me knowing that cigarettes are proven to have negative health impacts, but i smoke organic american spirits and think i'm above empirical statistical facts.



                              i think what you are referring to may be cognitive dissonance.




                              Definition Psychologist Leon Festinger first proposed a theory of
                              cognitive dissonance centered on how people try to reach internal
                              consistency. He suggested that people have an inner need to ensure
                              that their beliefs and behaviors are consistent. Inconsistent or
                              conflicting beliefs lead to disharmony, which people strive to avoid.



                              In his 1957 book, A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, Festinger
                              explained, "Cognitive dissonance can be seen as an antecedent
                              condition which leads to activity oriented toward dissonance reduction
                              just as hunger leads toward activity oriented toward hunger reduction.
                              It is a very different motivation from what psychologists are used to
                              dealing with but, as we shall see, nonetheless powerful."
                              https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-dissonance-2795012




                              .




                              cognitive dissonance noun. (psychology)
                              an uncomfortable mental state
                              resulting from conflicting cognitions; usually resolved by changing
                              some of the cognitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cognitive-dissonance




                              one more:




                              Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting
                              attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of mental
                              discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs
                              or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance.
                              https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html








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                                  I've heard "solecist" used to describe a person who does that.



                                  Definition of solecism
                                  1 : an ungrammatical combination of words in a sentence
                                  also : a minor blunder in speech
                                  2 : something deviating from the proper, normal, or accepted order
                                  3 : a breach of etiquette or decorum
                                  Merriam-Webster



                                  As an example, M-W uses a quote from a New Yorker article: "In 1964, Petula Clark had a hit with “Downtown.” But the songwriter Tony Hatch has said he was inspired by Times Square—a solecism forgivable from a Brit. In native parlance, the word denotes Manhattan below Fourteenth Street."



                                  M-W also includes the derivation:



                                  The city of Soloi had a reputation for bad grammar. Located in Cilicia, an ancient coastal nation in Asia Minor, it was populated by Athenian colonists called soloikos (literally "inhabitant of Soloi"). According to historians, the colonists of Soloi allowed their native Athenian Greek to be corrupted and they fell to using words incorrectly. As a result, soloikos gained a new meaning: "speaking incorrectly." The Greeks used that sense as the basis of soloikismos, meaning "an ungrammatical combination of words." That root in turn gave rise to the Latin soloecismus, the direct ancestor of the English word solecism. Nowadays, solecism can refer to social blunders as well as sloppy syntax.






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                                  I've heard "solecist" used to describe a person who does that.



                                  Definition of solecism
                                  1 : an ungrammatical combination of words in a sentence
                                  also : a minor blunder in speech
                                  2 : something deviating from the proper, normal, or accepted order
                                  3 : a breach of etiquette or decorum
                                  Merriam-Webster



                                  As an example, M-W uses a quote from a New Yorker article: "In 1964, Petula Clark had a hit with “Downtown.” But the songwriter Tony Hatch has said he was inspired by Times Square—a solecism forgivable from a Brit. In native parlance, the word denotes Manhattan below Fourteenth Street."



                                  M-W also includes the derivation:



                                  The city of Soloi had a reputation for bad grammar. Located in Cilicia, an ancient coastal nation in Asia Minor, it was populated by Athenian colonists called soloikos (literally "inhabitant of Soloi"). According to historians, the colonists of Soloi allowed their native Athenian Greek to be corrupted and they fell to using words incorrectly. As a result, soloikos gained a new meaning: "speaking incorrectly." The Greeks used that sense as the basis of soloikismos, meaning "an ungrammatical combination of words." That root in turn gave rise to the Latin soloecismus, the direct ancestor of the English word solecism. Nowadays, solecism can refer to social blunders as well as sloppy syntax.






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                                    – Zan700
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                                  I've heard "solecist" used to describe a person who does that.



                                  Definition of solecism
                                  1 : an ungrammatical combination of words in a sentence
                                  also : a minor blunder in speech
                                  2 : something deviating from the proper, normal, or accepted order
                                  3 : a breach of etiquette or decorum
                                  Merriam-Webster



                                  As an example, M-W uses a quote from a New Yorker article: "In 1964, Petula Clark had a hit with “Downtown.” But the songwriter Tony Hatch has said he was inspired by Times Square—a solecism forgivable from a Brit. In native parlance, the word denotes Manhattan below Fourteenth Street."



                                  M-W also includes the derivation:



                                  The city of Soloi had a reputation for bad grammar. Located in Cilicia, an ancient coastal nation in Asia Minor, it was populated by Athenian colonists called soloikos (literally "inhabitant of Soloi"). According to historians, the colonists of Soloi allowed their native Athenian Greek to be corrupted and they fell to using words incorrectly. As a result, soloikos gained a new meaning: "speaking incorrectly." The Greeks used that sense as the basis of soloikismos, meaning "an ungrammatical combination of words." That root in turn gave rise to the Latin soloecismus, the direct ancestor of the English word solecism. Nowadays, solecism can refer to social blunders as well as sloppy syntax.






                                  share|improve this answer













                                  I've heard "solecist" used to describe a person who does that.



                                  Definition of solecism
                                  1 : an ungrammatical combination of words in a sentence
                                  also : a minor blunder in speech
                                  2 : something deviating from the proper, normal, or accepted order
                                  3 : a breach of etiquette or decorum
                                  Merriam-Webster



                                  As an example, M-W uses a quote from a New Yorker article: "In 1964, Petula Clark had a hit with “Downtown.” But the songwriter Tony Hatch has said he was inspired by Times Square—a solecism forgivable from a Brit. In native parlance, the word denotes Manhattan below Fourteenth Street."



                                  M-W also includes the derivation:



                                  The city of Soloi had a reputation for bad grammar. Located in Cilicia, an ancient coastal nation in Asia Minor, it was populated by Athenian colonists called soloikos (literally "inhabitant of Soloi"). According to historians, the colonists of Soloi allowed their native Athenian Greek to be corrupted and they fell to using words incorrectly. As a result, soloikos gained a new meaning: "speaking incorrectly." The Greeks used that sense as the basis of soloikismos, meaning "an ungrammatical combination of words." That root in turn gave rise to the Latin soloecismus, the direct ancestor of the English word solecism. Nowadays, solecism can refer to social blunders as well as sloppy syntax.







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                                  • Well-known fools rush in to subtract. Thank god I've gotten a novel out of this, ickslay

                                    – Zan700
                                    Mar 28 at 16:17

















                                  • Well-known fools rush in to subtract. Thank god I've gotten a novel out of this, ickslay

                                    – Zan700
                                    Mar 28 at 16:17
















                                  Well-known fools rush in to subtract. Thank god I've gotten a novel out of this, ickslay

                                  – Zan700
                                  Mar 28 at 16:17





                                  Well-known fools rush in to subtract. Thank god I've gotten a novel out of this, ickslay

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                                  Mar 28 at 16:17











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                                  It sounds like "double talk" (sometimes "doublespeak"). They are more often used with deceptive intention, but can be applied in the example you give.




                                  They don't understand the truth in the matter, so they use half-truths
                                  to support their "double talk".




                                  https://www.thefreedictionary.com/double+talk



                                  https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak



                                  https://www.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak






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                                    It sounds like "double talk" (sometimes "doublespeak"). They are more often used with deceptive intention, but can be applied in the example you give.




                                    They don't understand the truth in the matter, so they use half-truths
                                    to support their "double talk".




                                    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/double+talk



                                    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak



                                    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak






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                                      It sounds like "double talk" (sometimes "doublespeak"). They are more often used with deceptive intention, but can be applied in the example you give.




                                      They don't understand the truth in the matter, so they use half-truths
                                      to support their "double talk".




                                      https://www.thefreedictionary.com/double+talk



                                      https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak



                                      https://www.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak






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                                      It sounds like "double talk" (sometimes "doublespeak"). They are more often used with deceptive intention, but can be applied in the example you give.




                                      They don't understand the truth in the matter, so they use half-truths
                                      to support their "double talk".




                                      https://www.thefreedictionary.com/double+talk



                                      https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak



                                      https://www.thefreedictionary.com/doublespeak







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