the right position of the passive reduced relative clause

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I have seen the passive reduced relative clauses in different positions so far. How can I decide what position is appropriate for any of them ?



*Example 1 : She obtained measures of business students' desires for
the perceived status of their school.



Example 2 : ...This depends on the degree to which the persons involved are seeking self-enhancement or self-transcendence.*



Before the noun ? Or after the noun ? What determines its position ?










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  • What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

    – BillJ
    May 28 at 16:48











  • I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

    – Serhan
    Jun 24 at 19:00


















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I have seen the passive reduced relative clauses in different positions so far. How can I decide what position is appropriate for any of them ?



*Example 1 : She obtained measures of business students' desires for
the perceived status of their school.



Example 2 : ...This depends on the degree to which the persons involved are seeking self-enhancement or self-transcendence.*



Before the noun ? Or after the noun ? What determines its position ?










share|improve this question



























  • What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

    – BillJ
    May 28 at 16:48











  • I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

    – Serhan
    Jun 24 at 19:00














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I have seen the passive reduced relative clauses in different positions so far. How can I decide what position is appropriate for any of them ?



*Example 1 : She obtained measures of business students' desires for
the perceived status of their school.



Example 2 : ...This depends on the degree to which the persons involved are seeking self-enhancement or self-transcendence.*



Before the noun ? Or after the noun ? What determines its position ?










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I have seen the passive reduced relative clauses in different positions so far. How can I decide what position is appropriate for any of them ?



*Example 1 : She obtained measures of business students' desires for
the perceived status of their school.



Example 2 : ...This depends on the degree to which the persons involved are seeking self-enhancement or self-transcendence.*



Before the noun ? Or after the noun ? What determines its position ?







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  • What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

    – BillJ
    May 28 at 16:48











  • I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

    – Serhan
    Jun 24 at 19:00



















  • What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

    – BillJ
    May 28 at 16:48











  • I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

    – Serhan
    Jun 24 at 19:00

















What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

– BillJ
May 28 at 16:48





What passive reduced relative clause are you talking about? Incidentally, "involved" is not a verb but an adjective here.

– BillJ
May 28 at 16:48













I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

– Serhan
Jun 24 at 19:00





I supposed that the phrases in bold were adjectives. I mean, I guessed "the persons involved" meant "the persons which are involved" and "are involved" was the passive structure. Similarly, I thought "the perceived status" meant "the status which was perceived". I really get confused now and I have two questions : First, how can the adjective "involved" is put after the noun ? Second, what determines the proper location of passive reduced relative clause ? (After or before the noun)

– Serhan
Jun 24 at 19:00










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