with which/what and wherewith
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Let we have the statements like
We are doing observations by telescopes, by radio-telescopes, by heliometers etc.
But stars do exist independently of by which (what?) they are (being?) observed (??)
I need the correct ending phrase (emphasized) in the last sentence and its, if any, shorter version;
i.e., without mentioning the noun-verb they are. What I typed above is likely erroneous, sorry.
That is, I'm looking for something like a question-form to the by in the 1-st sentence. Here is a guiding analog:
People do something for bla-bla
So the question-form for ending phrase here is
He is doing bla-bla independently of what for.
I see the word wherewith in a dictionary.
Collins explains the word as, probably, archaic with or by which. Does it help here?
phrases
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
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Let we have the statements like
We are doing observations by telescopes, by radio-telescopes, by heliometers etc.
But stars do exist independently of by which (what?) they are (being?) observed (??)
I need the correct ending phrase (emphasized) in the last sentence and its, if any, shorter version;
i.e., without mentioning the noun-verb they are. What I typed above is likely erroneous, sorry.
That is, I'm looking for something like a question-form to the by in the 1-st sentence. Here is a guiding analog:
People do something for bla-bla
So the question-form for ending phrase here is
He is doing bla-bla independently of what for.
I see the word wherewith in a dictionary.
Collins explains the word as, probably, archaic with or by which. Does it help here?
phrases
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
– user2626
Apr 19 at 12:32
"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37
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Let we have the statements like
We are doing observations by telescopes, by radio-telescopes, by heliometers etc.
But stars do exist independently of by which (what?) they are (being?) observed (??)
I need the correct ending phrase (emphasized) in the last sentence and its, if any, shorter version;
i.e., without mentioning the noun-verb they are. What I typed above is likely erroneous, sorry.
That is, I'm looking for something like a question-form to the by in the 1-st sentence. Here is a guiding analog:
People do something for bla-bla
So the question-form for ending phrase here is
He is doing bla-bla independently of what for.
I see the word wherewith in a dictionary.
Collins explains the word as, probably, archaic with or by which. Does it help here?
phrases
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
Let we have the statements like
We are doing observations by telescopes, by radio-telescopes, by heliometers etc.
But stars do exist independently of by which (what?) they are (being?) observed (??)
I need the correct ending phrase (emphasized) in the last sentence and its, if any, shorter version;
i.e., without mentioning the noun-verb they are. What I typed above is likely erroneous, sorry.
That is, I'm looking for something like a question-form to the by in the 1-st sentence. Here is a guiding analog:
People do something for bla-bla
So the question-form for ending phrase here is
He is doing bla-bla independently of what for.
I see the word wherewith in a dictionary.
Collins explains the word as, probably, archaic with or by which. Does it help here?
phrases
phrases
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
edited Apr 19 at 12:32
user2626
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
asked Apr 19 at 10:29
user2626user2626
143
143
Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
– user2626
Apr 19 at 12:32
"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37
add a comment |
Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
– user2626
Apr 19 at 12:32
"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37
Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
– user2626
Apr 19 at 12:32
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
– user2626
Apr 19 at 12:32
"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37
"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37
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Telescope need not be used in the plural for these purposes.
The observed exists independently of the means of observation.
The observed exists independent of the tools we use.
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Telescope need not be used in the plural for these purposes.
The observed exists independently of the means of observation.
The observed exists independent of the tools we use.
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Telescope need not be used in the plural for these purposes.
The observed exists independently of the means of observation.
The observed exists independent of the tools we use.
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Telescope need not be used in the plural for these purposes.
The observed exists independently of the means of observation.
The observed exists independent of the tools we use.
answered Apr 19 at 17:40
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Telescope need not be used in the plural for these purposes.
The observed exists independently of the means of observation.
The observed exists independent of the tools we use.
answered Apr 19 at 17:40
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Please quote the entire sentence. Quoting fragments and placeholders does not help in understanding what you're asking. You found wherewith in a dictionary: what did that tell you? Did you find examples of its use (perhaps in a different dictionary)? Please show the results of your research.
– Andrew Leach♦
Apr 19 at 11:13
Thanks so much. I retyped the question
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"But stars do exist independently of how they are [being] observed" or "But stars do exist independently of the means by which they are [being] observed"
– user323578
Apr 19 at 16:37