I got the following comment from a reputed math journal. What does it mean?
I got this comment after more than 75 days of submission:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
What does it mean?
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I got this comment after more than 75 days of submission:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
What does it mean?
mathematics feedback
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
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asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
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I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
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I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
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No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
7
Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
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@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17
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I got this comment after more than 75 days of submission:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
What does it mean?
mathematics feedback
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
I got this comment after more than 75 days of submission:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
What does it mean?
mathematics feedback
mathematics feedback
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
edited Mar 16 at 13:34
Ooker
4,96653293
4,96653293
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
asked Mar 16 at 6:55
Sid BrownSid Brown
199125
199125
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I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
50
I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
6
No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
7
Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
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@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17
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I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
50
I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
6
No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
7
Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
6
@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17
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I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
50
50
I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
6
6
No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
7
7
Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
6
6
@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17
@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17
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My educated guess is that the reviewer is a native speaker of German and mistranslated some terms into English:
The German word Übung translates both to practice and to exercise.
In German universities, höhere Mathematik (literally: higher mathematics) was used as a label for mathematics courses for students of other scientific fields or engineering. At times, this only referred to the calculus courses (and not the linear-algebra courses). In particular, these courses usually focus on applying mathematical concepts and do not compare to courses for students of mathematics. (I wouldn’t be surprised if you can still find this label in use somewhere.)
If my guess is correct, the reviewers comment means something along the lines of:
This manuscript is just a (demonstrative) exercise in undergraduate mathematics and therefore not suitable for publication in a high-level journal.
So, your manuscript was rejected because it allegedly does not feature any new mathematics.
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I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
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Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
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Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
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This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
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@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
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Seems to me that there's a missing word, and the correct comment might be something more like:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high school mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
In other words, your manuscript is too simple to be published in an academic journal.
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Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
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"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
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Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
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@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
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Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
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The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics...
In context, I would translate this into native English as:
In higher mathematics, the problem considered in this manuscript is just an exercise...
In other words, a routine calculation that has nothing new to say. Sorry.
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
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Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
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@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
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@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
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@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
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This seems really odd. Is this the journal you submitted to?
Why
It took 75 days to receive a 1 sentence answer in English that makes no sense.
Even if it was high-school level, any peer reviewer would be expected to write more than a single bad English sentence.
There should be multiple reviews, and the editor should have sent a single sentence review back for more details without being asked.
What to do
If you are a grad student, take this to your advisor. There is a good chance they can contact the editor, and will have more clout than you (unless you are a professor).
If you are affiliated with a university, ask others in the field about it. If there are multiple people with single sentence reviews, push back on the conference as a group.
At least reach out to the editor. Say
I'm not sure what this sentence means. This is the only review I
received from my submission, and I'm not sure what it means or why my paper was rejected.
EDIT:
I thought it might be a desk rejection, but the message isn't boilerplate. I'm also not convinced the review meant "high-school".
Reasoning
If it was a high-school caliber entry, and the editor caught it, why not send a form letter or ignore it?
I have a difficult time seeing how "high-school math" can be anything but an insult. Why not just use words like stupid outright?
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
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About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
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If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
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Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
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@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
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"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
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The editors are implying that what you have reported in your manuscript is already out there. It could be a theorem or a technique already in use by mathematicians, and therefore cannot be published as your research finding now.
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The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals
Probably he means "high school". But, Gauss found many solutions in his high school years... Nobody exactly defined where "high school" ends. Because in my high school, I modelled Frank-Hertz experiment. With complicated enough approach this could become Plasma Physics article, enough for publication in any scientific grade journal.
Another probability is that they think subject lies in field of "high mathematics", and they understand it as "mathematical analysis". It exists in some high school programs, but generally considered university discipline, rather then school. Again, it is actually possible to create problem inside mathematical analysis and solve it, creating material of grade which is enough for publication anywhere.
Also you can always publish it in journals for PhD/high school students, which have lower bounds for inclusion of articles.
Not explaining what exactly in your result did not fit into bounds for publication is nonsense. Such uncompetent staff which doesn't even bother to explain the subject of article should be fired because most probably their PhD degree was bought (remember how french physicists had bought degrees in 90s and after great scandal they were both fired and their works disqualified).
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
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@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
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Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
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Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
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@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
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@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
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My educated guess is that the reviewer is a native speaker of German and mistranslated some terms into English:
The German word Übung translates both to practice and to exercise.
In German universities, höhere Mathematik (literally: higher mathematics) was used as a label for mathematics courses for students of other scientific fields or engineering. At times, this only referred to the calculus courses (and not the linear-algebra courses). In particular, these courses usually focus on applying mathematical concepts and do not compare to courses for students of mathematics. (I wouldn’t be surprised if you can still find this label in use somewhere.)
If my guess is correct, the reviewers comment means something along the lines of:
This manuscript is just a (demonstrative) exercise in undergraduate mathematics and therefore not suitable for publication in a high-level journal.
So, your manuscript was rejected because it allegedly does not feature any new mathematics.
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
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I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
2
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
1
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
6
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
5
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
add a comment |
My educated guess is that the reviewer is a native speaker of German and mistranslated some terms into English:
The German word Übung translates both to practice and to exercise.
In German universities, höhere Mathematik (literally: higher mathematics) was used as a label for mathematics courses for students of other scientific fields or engineering. At times, this only referred to the calculus courses (and not the linear-algebra courses). In particular, these courses usually focus on applying mathematical concepts and do not compare to courses for students of mathematics. (I wouldn’t be surprised if you can still find this label in use somewhere.)
If my guess is correct, the reviewers comment means something along the lines of:
This manuscript is just a (demonstrative) exercise in undergraduate mathematics and therefore not suitable for publication in a high-level journal.
So, your manuscript was rejected because it allegedly does not feature any new mathematics.
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
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I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
2
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
1
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
6
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
5
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
add a comment |
My educated guess is that the reviewer is a native speaker of German and mistranslated some terms into English:
The German word Übung translates both to practice and to exercise.
In German universities, höhere Mathematik (literally: higher mathematics) was used as a label for mathematics courses for students of other scientific fields or engineering. At times, this only referred to the calculus courses (and not the linear-algebra courses). In particular, these courses usually focus on applying mathematical concepts and do not compare to courses for students of mathematics. (I wouldn’t be surprised if you can still find this label in use somewhere.)
If my guess is correct, the reviewers comment means something along the lines of:
This manuscript is just a (demonstrative) exercise in undergraduate mathematics and therefore not suitable for publication in a high-level journal.
So, your manuscript was rejected because it allegedly does not feature any new mathematics.
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
My educated guess is that the reviewer is a native speaker of German and mistranslated some terms into English:
The German word Übung translates both to practice and to exercise.
In German universities, höhere Mathematik (literally: higher mathematics) was used as a label for mathematics courses for students of other scientific fields or engineering. At times, this only referred to the calculus courses (and not the linear-algebra courses). In particular, these courses usually focus on applying mathematical concepts and do not compare to courses for students of mathematics. (I wouldn’t be surprised if you can still find this label in use somewhere.)
If my guess is correct, the reviewers comment means something along the lines of:
This manuscript is just a (demonstrative) exercise in undergraduate mathematics and therefore not suitable for publication in a high-level journal.
So, your manuscript was rejected because it allegedly does not feature any new mathematics.
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
edited Mar 16 at 17:17
Uwe
1,451613
1,451613
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
answered Mar 16 at 16:48
Wrzlprmft♦Wrzlprmft
34.4k11109185
34.4k11109185
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I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
2
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
1
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
6
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
5
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
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18
I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
2
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
1
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
6
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
5
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
18
18
I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
I came to a similar conclusion without thinking about it being a translation issue: the problem is (already) a practice in {some kind of} mathematics, therefore it's not suitable as a paper for a high-level journal (which only publishes novel things).
– Mehrdad
Mar 17 at 1:36
2
2
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
Incidentally the old name for calculus in Vietnamese is also "high-level math". During the Vietnam war we imported education from the USSR, so I wonder if this name also exists in Russian
– Ooker
Mar 17 at 5:41
1
1
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
Also, the German word "betrachtet" translates to "considered" and "regarded". The usage of the first translation seems a bit strange here.
– rexkogitans
Mar 17 at 9:42
6
6
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
This sentence would mean pretty much the same thing as your German intepretation if you translated it literally into Polish. It may be a bit of a leap, but I suppose the same is likely to be true for (most?) other central European languages.
– tomasz
Mar 17 at 13:59
5
5
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
@Ooker It is the same in most of Central and Eastern Europe ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Vladimir F
Mar 17 at 17:49
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Seems to me that there's a missing word, and the correct comment might be something more like:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high school mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
In other words, your manuscript is too simple to be published in an academic journal.
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
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answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
6
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
27
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
28
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
4
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
4
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
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Seems to me that there's a missing word, and the correct comment might be something more like:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high school mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
In other words, your manuscript is too simple to be published in an academic journal.
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
6
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
27
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
28
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
4
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
4
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
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Seems to me that there's a missing word, and the correct comment might be something more like:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high school mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
In other words, your manuscript is too simple to be published in an academic journal.
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
Seems to me that there's a missing word, and the correct comment might be something more like:
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high school mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals.
In other words, your manuscript is too simple to be published in an academic journal.
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
edited Mar 16 at 10:26
Buffy
54.1k16175268
54.1k16175268
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
answered Mar 16 at 7:07
AllureAllure
33.3k19101152
33.3k19101152
6
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
27
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
28
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
4
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
4
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
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show 4 more comments
6
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
27
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
28
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
4
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
4
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
6
6
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
Even then, it is a strange formulation, but I suppose the one writing it might not be great at English ("a practice" does not really make sense here on its own).
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 7:26
27
27
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
"a practice" instead of "an exercise" could be poor translation from a different language
– Thomas
Mar 16 at 7:54
28
28
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
Could be. Or maybe they mean something like "a (standard) practice in higher mathematics." Either way, a poorly written comment indicating that the paper's contribution is not sufficiently significant.
– cag51
Mar 16 at 9:55
4
4
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
@cag51 This should be the answer.
– Captain Emacs
Mar 16 at 11:53
4
4
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
Unfortunately it means that the manuscript is rejected. The only thing you can do is being disappointed that it took almost three months to receive an answer (that in addition might be poorly written).
– Alchimista
Mar 16 at 13:40
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The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics...
In context, I would translate this into native English as:
In higher mathematics, the problem considered in this manuscript is just an exercise...
In other words, a routine calculation that has nothing new to say. Sorry.
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
30
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
2
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
20
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
add a comment |
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics...
In context, I would translate this into native English as:
In higher mathematics, the problem considered in this manuscript is just an exercise...
In other words, a routine calculation that has nothing new to say. Sorry.
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
30
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
2
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
20
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
add a comment |
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics...
In context, I would translate this into native English as:
In higher mathematics, the problem considered in this manuscript is just an exercise...
In other words, a routine calculation that has nothing new to say. Sorry.
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics...
In context, I would translate this into native English as:
In higher mathematics, the problem considered in this manuscript is just an exercise...
In other words, a routine calculation that has nothing new to say. Sorry.
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
answered Mar 16 at 17:59
TonyKTonyK
29913
29913
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
30
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
2
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
20
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
add a comment |
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
30
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
2
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
20
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
Sorry that is completely wrong!
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:37
30
30
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
@SidBrown You're asking your question because you don't know what the review means. So I don't think you're in a position to declare that interpretations of it are "completely wrong!"
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:59
2
2
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@SidBrown this seems completely right to me. What strikes you as wrong about it? At least give some info instead of just making a statement like that
– user94036
Mar 18 at 2:18
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
@tonyk because the problem the manuscript deals cannot be considered just an exercise.
– Sid Brown
Mar 18 at 5:16
20
20
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
@SidBrown With all due respect, it is clear from everything here that you have essentially no experience in publishing mathematical research. While this will not imply that your work is not good, it means that it has a lot less weight when you claim that it cannot be considered just an exercise, since this is a judgement that takes experience (though experience that is slightly tangential to actually publishing). You might be correct, but most reasonable interpretations of the reviewer message points to them disagreeing with you on this point.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 18 at 9:52
add a comment |
This seems really odd. Is this the journal you submitted to?
Why
It took 75 days to receive a 1 sentence answer in English that makes no sense.
Even if it was high-school level, any peer reviewer would be expected to write more than a single bad English sentence.
There should be multiple reviews, and the editor should have sent a single sentence review back for more details without being asked.
What to do
If you are a grad student, take this to your advisor. There is a good chance they can contact the editor, and will have more clout than you (unless you are a professor).
If you are affiliated with a university, ask others in the field about it. If there are multiple people with single sentence reviews, push back on the conference as a group.
At least reach out to the editor. Say
I'm not sure what this sentence means. This is the only review I
received from my submission, and I'm not sure what it means or why my paper was rejected.
EDIT:
I thought it might be a desk rejection, but the message isn't boilerplate. I'm also not convinced the review meant "high-school".
Reasoning
If it was a high-school caliber entry, and the editor caught it, why not send a form letter or ignore it?
I have a difficult time seeing how "high-school math" can be anything but an insult. Why not just use words like stupid outright?
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
12
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
20
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
7
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
4
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
4
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
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This seems really odd. Is this the journal you submitted to?
Why
It took 75 days to receive a 1 sentence answer in English that makes no sense.
Even if it was high-school level, any peer reviewer would be expected to write more than a single bad English sentence.
There should be multiple reviews, and the editor should have sent a single sentence review back for more details without being asked.
What to do
If you are a grad student, take this to your advisor. There is a good chance they can contact the editor, and will have more clout than you (unless you are a professor).
If you are affiliated with a university, ask others in the field about it. If there are multiple people with single sentence reviews, push back on the conference as a group.
At least reach out to the editor. Say
I'm not sure what this sentence means. This is the only review I
received from my submission, and I'm not sure what it means or why my paper was rejected.
EDIT:
I thought it might be a desk rejection, but the message isn't boilerplate. I'm also not convinced the review meant "high-school".
Reasoning
If it was a high-school caliber entry, and the editor caught it, why not send a form letter or ignore it?
I have a difficult time seeing how "high-school math" can be anything but an insult. Why not just use words like stupid outright?
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
12
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
20
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
7
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
4
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
4
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
|
show 6 more comments
This seems really odd. Is this the journal you submitted to?
Why
It took 75 days to receive a 1 sentence answer in English that makes no sense.
Even if it was high-school level, any peer reviewer would be expected to write more than a single bad English sentence.
There should be multiple reviews, and the editor should have sent a single sentence review back for more details without being asked.
What to do
If you are a grad student, take this to your advisor. There is a good chance they can contact the editor, and will have more clout than you (unless you are a professor).
If you are affiliated with a university, ask others in the field about it. If there are multiple people with single sentence reviews, push back on the conference as a group.
At least reach out to the editor. Say
I'm not sure what this sentence means. This is the only review I
received from my submission, and I'm not sure what it means or why my paper was rejected.
EDIT:
I thought it might be a desk rejection, but the message isn't boilerplate. I'm also not convinced the review meant "high-school".
Reasoning
If it was a high-school caliber entry, and the editor caught it, why not send a form letter or ignore it?
I have a difficult time seeing how "high-school math" can be anything but an insult. Why not just use words like stupid outright?
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
This seems really odd. Is this the journal you submitted to?
Why
It took 75 days to receive a 1 sentence answer in English that makes no sense.
Even if it was high-school level, any peer reviewer would be expected to write more than a single bad English sentence.
There should be multiple reviews, and the editor should have sent a single sentence review back for more details without being asked.
What to do
If you are a grad student, take this to your advisor. There is a good chance they can contact the editor, and will have more clout than you (unless you are a professor).
If you are affiliated with a university, ask others in the field about it. If there are multiple people with single sentence reviews, push back on the conference as a group.
At least reach out to the editor. Say
I'm not sure what this sentence means. This is the only review I
received from my submission, and I'm not sure what it means or why my paper was rejected.
EDIT:
I thought it might be a desk rejection, but the message isn't boilerplate. I'm also not convinced the review meant "high-school".
Reasoning
If it was a high-school caliber entry, and the editor caught it, why not send a form letter or ignore it?
I have a difficult time seeing how "high-school math" can be anything but an insult. Why not just use words like stupid outright?
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
edited Mar 16 at 18:54
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
answered Mar 16 at 16:26
sevensevenssevensevens
4,316925
4,316925
12
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
20
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
7
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
4
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
4
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
|
show 6 more comments
12
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
20
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
7
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
4
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
4
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
12
12
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
About the multiple reviews and just one sentence: It could be a desk rejection coming from the editor, so it may not even been sent to the reviewers. And if the paper is really bad, there's no point in writing a detailed rejection.
– Massimo Ortolano
Mar 16 at 16:36
20
20
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
If someone sends math at high school level to a journal, why should I as a reviewer write more than one line pointing that out? If it truly is an exercise in high school math, then there is nothing that will make it publishable, and it will be a waste of my time to try to point out things that might make it so. And it is very common for even very good math journals to have just a single reviewer.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 17:15
7
7
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
Just because the journal uses English language, doesn't mean that English is necessarily the first language of any given reviewer. I also doubt that "high school" is the correct implication. I'm strongly thinking "higher mathematics".
– Buffy
Mar 16 at 20:16
4
4
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
@sevensevens yes that is the journal.
– Sid Brown
Mar 17 at 5:31
4
4
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
"High-school" isn't an insult: it's just placing the level of the work. High school students aren't stupid; the point is that school-level mathematics isn't research.
– David Richerby
Mar 17 at 21:58
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The editors are implying that what you have reported in your manuscript is already out there. It could be a theorem or a technique already in use by mathematicians, and therefore cannot be published as your research finding now.
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Mar 20 at 18:06
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Mar 20 at 18:06
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The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals
Probably he means "high school". But, Gauss found many solutions in his high school years... Nobody exactly defined where "high school" ends. Because in my high school, I modelled Frank-Hertz experiment. With complicated enough approach this could become Plasma Physics article, enough for publication in any scientific grade journal.
Another probability is that they think subject lies in field of "high mathematics", and they understand it as "mathematical analysis". It exists in some high school programs, but generally considered university discipline, rather then school. Again, it is actually possible to create problem inside mathematical analysis and solve it, creating material of grade which is enough for publication anywhere.
Also you can always publish it in journals for PhD/high school students, which have lower bounds for inclusion of articles.
Not explaining what exactly in your result did not fit into bounds for publication is nonsense. Such uncompetent staff which doesn't even bother to explain the subject of article should be fired because most probably their PhD degree was bought (remember how french physicists had bought degrees in 90s and after great scandal they were both fired and their works disqualified).
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
4
@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
9
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
15
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
16
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
11
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
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The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals
Probably he means "high school". But, Gauss found many solutions in his high school years... Nobody exactly defined where "high school" ends. Because in my high school, I modelled Frank-Hertz experiment. With complicated enough approach this could become Plasma Physics article, enough for publication in any scientific grade journal.
Another probability is that they think subject lies in field of "high mathematics", and they understand it as "mathematical analysis". It exists in some high school programs, but generally considered university discipline, rather then school. Again, it is actually possible to create problem inside mathematical analysis and solve it, creating material of grade which is enough for publication anywhere.
Also you can always publish it in journals for PhD/high school students, which have lower bounds for inclusion of articles.
Not explaining what exactly in your result did not fit into bounds for publication is nonsense. Such uncompetent staff which doesn't even bother to explain the subject of article should be fired because most probably their PhD degree was bought (remember how french physicists had bought degrees in 90s and after great scandal they were both fired and their works disqualified).
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
4
@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
9
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
15
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
16
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
11
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
|
show 9 more comments
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals
Probably he means "high school". But, Gauss found many solutions in his high school years... Nobody exactly defined where "high school" ends. Because in my high school, I modelled Frank-Hertz experiment. With complicated enough approach this could become Plasma Physics article, enough for publication in any scientific grade journal.
Another probability is that they think subject lies in field of "high mathematics", and they understand it as "mathematical analysis". It exists in some high school programs, but generally considered university discipline, rather then school. Again, it is actually possible to create problem inside mathematical analysis and solve it, creating material of grade which is enough for publication anywhere.
Also you can always publish it in journals for PhD/high school students, which have lower bounds for inclusion of articles.
Not explaining what exactly in your result did not fit into bounds for publication is nonsense. Such uncompetent staff which doesn't even bother to explain the subject of article should be fired because most probably their PhD degree was bought (remember how french physicists had bought degrees in 90s and after great scandal they were both fired and their works disqualified).
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
The considered problem in this manuscript is a practice in high mathematics and can not be a paper for publication in high-level journals
Probably he means "high school". But, Gauss found many solutions in his high school years... Nobody exactly defined where "high school" ends. Because in my high school, I modelled Frank-Hertz experiment. With complicated enough approach this could become Plasma Physics article, enough for publication in any scientific grade journal.
Another probability is that they think subject lies in field of "high mathematics", and they understand it as "mathematical analysis". It exists in some high school programs, but generally considered university discipline, rather then school. Again, it is actually possible to create problem inside mathematical analysis and solve it, creating material of grade which is enough for publication anywhere.
Also you can always publish it in journals for PhD/high school students, which have lower bounds for inclusion of articles.
Not explaining what exactly in your result did not fit into bounds for publication is nonsense. Such uncompetent staff which doesn't even bother to explain the subject of article should be fired because most probably their PhD degree was bought (remember how french physicists had bought degrees in 90s and after great scandal they were both fired and their works disqualified).
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
edited Mar 16 at 14:00
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
answered Mar 16 at 13:27
sanarissanaris
1526
1526
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@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
9
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
15
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
16
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
11
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
|
show 9 more comments
4
@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
9
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
15
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
16
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
11
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
4
4
@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
@SidBrown Other than which one? You have not specified which one this was, and I am really not sure why it would matter that the journal is in Europe. But even with that somewhat unusual requirement, there are plenty to choose from.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:53
9
9
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
Your comment about "high mathematics" and "mathematical analysis" show that you have no idea about what math research is about, so your advise is unlikely to be very helpful.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 13:57
15
15
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
Why on earth would "high mathematics" mean "mathematical analysis"? Why that specific subbranch of mathematics and not one of the other ones? I mean, "higher category theory" at least contains the word "high".
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:03
16
16
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
@TobiasKildetoft: For whatever it’s worth, German universities used to split their basic mathematics curriculum (usually for students of other sciences or engineering AFAIK) into lineare Algebra (linear algebra) and höhere Mathematik, with the latter literally meaning higher mathematics and practically being (infinitesimal) calculus. The modern name for these courses and the German word for calculus is Analysis. So, with a few translation errors (that should not happen to a professional mathematician nowadays), you indeed get high mathematics = mathematical analysis.
– Wrzlprmft♦
Mar 16 at 16:08
11
11
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
@SidBrown From the rejection note you've already received, aiming for journals "with a great reputation" sounds like it's aiming much too high.
– David Richerby
Mar 16 at 17:45
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I would considered politely asking for a clarification. It is quite a cryptic message you've got there.
– Gabriel
Mar 16 at 12:46
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I would suggest against asking for a clarification. This seems like the whole text of the review. The English is lacking, but the outcome is clear: your paper is (allegedly) way too simple for this journal. Right or wrong, that's their decision. You have little to gain by arguing. After such a comment, there isn't much that you can write that would make the editor reconsider. If they had doubts about the review, they would already have invited another reviewer. Move on, and submit it somewhere else.
– Federico Poloni
Mar 16 at 13:48
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No, a paper need not be hard to grasp to be publishable. But it needs to deal with a problem of interest to the mathematical community, and whatever the reviewer meant precisely, it is clear that they do not believe the problem to be in this category.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Mar 16 at 14:16
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Unfortunately, sometimes reviewers don't do a good job reviewing. Worse, sometimes a problem can be very tough and then seem trivial once one has seen the solution. My advice is to send the paper to another journal, probably a slightly weaker one than you saw previously, and make sure that the paper has a detailed section illustrating what prior work has been done on the problem and why people care. that should do a better job getting a reviewer to realize the paper is interesting and non-trivial.
– JoshuaZ
Mar 16 at 16:02
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@SidBrown I presume you are a student at some level. Do you have an academic advisor? You should run your work by someone at your institution who can assess its quality and help you find another journal to submit to if it is appropriate to do so. Based on your comments I am worried you might not know what you are doing and without getting some help you will continue to founder. In particular, because you seem to know no journals in your area I suspect that means you have not read any academic mathematics in your area. That almost certainly means your work is not publishable.
– Bryan Krause
Mar 16 at 19:17