files created then deleted at every second in tmp directory





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By mistake I noticed that in /tmp directory are continuously created some files then immediately deleted. Using a succession of ls -l /tmp I managed to catch the created files:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:37  YlOmPA069G
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:37 l74jZzbcs6


or another example:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:44  AwVhWakvQ_
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 RpRGl__cIM
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 S0e72nkpBl
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 emxIQQMSy2


It's about Ubuntu 18.10 with 4.18.0-16-generic. This is an almost fresh install: I added some server software (nginx, mysql, php7.2-fpm) but even with those closed the problem persists.



What are the files created and why?
How would I stop this behaviour? a very undesirable one on a SSD



Thank you!



UPDATE



The question is about when not having /tmp in RAM (no tmpfs).

The guilty software is x2goserver.service otherwise a must have one.










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  • 2





    "a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

    – Rinzwind
    Apr 2 at 16:54






  • 2





    /tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 2 at 16:56






  • 2





    Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

    – Peter Cordes
    Apr 2 at 19:07






  • 1





    great - it’s a must have

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 5:54






  • 2





    @PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

    – Charles Green
    Apr 4 at 13:00




















9















By mistake I noticed that in /tmp directory are continuously created some files then immediately deleted. Using a succession of ls -l /tmp I managed to catch the created files:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:37  YlOmPA069G
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:37 l74jZzbcs6


or another example:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:44  AwVhWakvQ_
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 RpRGl__cIM
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 S0e72nkpBl
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 emxIQQMSy2


It's about Ubuntu 18.10 with 4.18.0-16-generic. This is an almost fresh install: I added some server software (nginx, mysql, php7.2-fpm) but even with those closed the problem persists.



What are the files created and why?
How would I stop this behaviour? a very undesirable one on a SSD



Thank you!



UPDATE



The question is about when not having /tmp in RAM (no tmpfs).

The guilty software is x2goserver.service otherwise a must have one.










share|improve this question




















  • 2





    "a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

    – Rinzwind
    Apr 2 at 16:54






  • 2





    /tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 2 at 16:56






  • 2





    Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

    – Peter Cordes
    Apr 2 at 19:07






  • 1





    great - it’s a must have

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 5:54






  • 2





    @PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

    – Charles Green
    Apr 4 at 13:00
















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4






By mistake I noticed that in /tmp directory are continuously created some files then immediately deleted. Using a succession of ls -l /tmp I managed to catch the created files:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:37  YlOmPA069G
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:37 l74jZzbcs6


or another example:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:44  AwVhWakvQ_
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 RpRGl__cIM
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 S0e72nkpBl
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 emxIQQMSy2


It's about Ubuntu 18.10 with 4.18.0-16-generic. This is an almost fresh install: I added some server software (nginx, mysql, php7.2-fpm) but even with those closed the problem persists.



What are the files created and why?
How would I stop this behaviour? a very undesirable one on a SSD



Thank you!



UPDATE



The question is about when not having /tmp in RAM (no tmpfs).

The guilty software is x2goserver.service otherwise a must have one.










share|improve this question
















By mistake I noticed that in /tmp directory are continuously created some files then immediately deleted. Using a succession of ls -l /tmp I managed to catch the created files:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:37  YlOmPA069G
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:37 l74jZzbcs6


or another example:



-rw------- 1 root root       0 Apr  2 19:44  AwVhWakvQ_
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 RpRGl__cIM
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 S0e72nkpBl
-rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 2 19:44 emxIQQMSy2


It's about Ubuntu 18.10 with 4.18.0-16-generic. This is an almost fresh install: I added some server software (nginx, mysql, php7.2-fpm) but even with those closed the problem persists.



What are the files created and why?
How would I stop this behaviour? a very undesirable one on a SSD



Thank you!



UPDATE



The question is about when not having /tmp in RAM (no tmpfs).

The guilty software is x2goserver.service otherwise a must have one.







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  • 2





    "a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

    – Rinzwind
    Apr 2 at 16:54






  • 2





    /tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 2 at 16:56






  • 2





    Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

    – Peter Cordes
    Apr 2 at 19:07






  • 1





    great - it’s a must have

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 5:54






  • 2





    @PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

    – Charles Green
    Apr 4 at 13:00
















  • 2





    "a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

    – Rinzwind
    Apr 2 at 16:54






  • 2





    /tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 2 at 16:56






  • 2





    Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

    – Peter Cordes
    Apr 2 at 19:07






  • 1





    great - it’s a must have

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 5:54






  • 2





    @PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

    – Charles Green
    Apr 4 at 13:00










2




2





"a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

– Rinzwind
Apr 2 at 16:54





"a very undesirable one on a SSD" explain this please? You don't have /tmp as a tmpfs? why not? why would files in memory damage a ssd?

– Rinzwind
Apr 2 at 16:54




2




2





/tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

– Colin Ian King
Apr 2 at 16:56





/tmp may not necessarily be tmpfs, so it's a valid question

– Colin Ian King
Apr 2 at 16:56




2




2





Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

– Peter Cordes
Apr 2 at 19:07





Yes, it would be undesirable on a SSD, at least if the directory metadata actually got written back to disk instead of just staying hot in cache. This is why /tmp is normally on tmpfs (a ramdisk filesystem that uses the pagecache as its backing store); you tagged your question with the tmpfs, so your comments about SSDs seem out of place.

– Peter Cordes
Apr 2 at 19:07




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great - it’s a must have

– adrhc
Apr 3 at 5:54





great - it’s a must have

– adrhc
Apr 3 at 5:54




2




2





@PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

– Charles Green
Apr 4 at 13:00







@PeterCordes I'm not sure that the statement "/tmp is normally on tmpfs" is valid for a normal Ubuntu user - Just using the default Ubuntu install, /tmp is on disk and the OP would need to create the appropriate fstab entries to put it into a tmpfs

– Charles Green
Apr 4 at 13:00












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I suggest installing and running fnotifystat to detect the process that is creating these files:



sudo apt-get install fnotifystat
sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


You will see process that is doing the open/close/read/write activity something like the following:



Total   Open  Close   Read  Write   PID  Process         Pathname
3.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-input (deleted)
2.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 18135 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)
1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)





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    And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

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    Apr 3 at 13:51





















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Determine which program/process is touching files



You can use tools such as lsof to determine which processes and binaries are touching/opening which files. This could become troublesome if the files change frequently, so you can instead set up a watch to notify you:



$ sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


Sometimes, simply looking at the user or group owner gives you a good hint (ie: ls -lsha).





Put /tmp into RAM instead of disk



If you desire, you can put your /tmp directory into RAM. You will have to determine if this is a smart move based on available RAM, as well as the size and frequency of read/writes.



$ sudo vim /etc/fstab

...
# tmpfs in RAM
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
...


$ sudo mount /tmp
$ mount | grep tmp # Check /tmp is in RAM
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime)


If you have enough RAM, this can be considered a very good thing to do for both the longevity of your SSD, as well as the speed of your system. You can even accomplish this with smaller amounts of RAM if you tweak tmpreaper (sometimes tmpwatch) to be more aggressive.






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    very undesirable one on a SSD




    You tagged your question with tmpfs, so it is not quite clear to me how this relates to SSD at all. Tmpfs is an in-memory (or more precisely, in-block-cache) filesystem, so it will never hit a physical disk.



    Furthermore, even if you had a physical backing store for your /tmp filesystem, unless you have a system with only a couple of kilobytes of RAM, those short-lived files will never hit the disk, all operations will happen in the cache.



    So, in other words, there is nothing to worry about since you are using tmpfs, and if you weren't, there still would be nothing to worry about.






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    • I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

      – adrhc
      Apr 3 at 16:23













    • @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

      – Jörg W Mittag
      Apr 3 at 21:36











    • I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

      – adrhc
      Apr 4 at 12:55












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    I suggest installing and running fnotifystat to detect the process that is creating these files:



    sudo apt-get install fnotifystat
    sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


    You will see process that is doing the open/close/read/write activity something like the following:



    Total   Open  Close   Read  Write   PID  Process         Pathname
    3.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-input (deleted)
    2.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 18135 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)





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      Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

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      And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

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      Apr 3 at 13:51


















    12














    I suggest installing and running fnotifystat to detect the process that is creating these files:



    sudo apt-get install fnotifystat
    sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


    You will see process that is doing the open/close/read/write activity something like the following:



    Total   Open  Close   Read  Write   PID  Process         Pathname
    3.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-input (deleted)
    2.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 18135 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)





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    • 1





      Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

      – Colin Ian King
      Apr 3 at 8:12






    • 1





      And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

      – adrhc
      Apr 3 at 13:51
















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    I suggest installing and running fnotifystat to detect the process that is creating these files:



    sudo apt-get install fnotifystat
    sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


    You will see process that is doing the open/close/read/write activity something like the following:



    Total   Open  Close   Read  Write   PID  Process         Pathname
    3.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-input (deleted)
    2.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 18135 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)





    share|improve this answer













    I suggest installing and running fnotifystat to detect the process that is creating these files:



    sudo apt-get install fnotifystat
    sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


    You will see process that is doing the open/close/read/write activity something like the following:



    Total   Open  Close   Read  Write   PID  Process         Pathname
    3.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-input (deleted)
    2.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 18135 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)
    1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5748 firefox /tmp/cubeb-shm-5748-output (deleted)






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    • 1





      Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

      – Colin Ian King
      Apr 3 at 8:12






    • 1





      And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

      – adrhc
      Apr 3 at 13:51
















    • 1





      Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

      – Colin Ian King
      Apr 3 at 8:12






    • 1





      And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

      – adrhc
      Apr 3 at 13:51










    1




    1





    Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 3 at 8:12





    Postscript: I'm the author of this tool: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/fnotifystat

    – Colin Ian King
    Apr 3 at 8:12




    1




    1





    And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 13:51







    And you are also the first who answered the question (though no longer visible that). It's a good tool by the way.

    – adrhc
    Apr 3 at 13:51















    7














    Determine which program/process is touching files



    You can use tools such as lsof to determine which processes and binaries are touching/opening which files. This could become troublesome if the files change frequently, so you can instead set up a watch to notify you:



    $ sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


    Sometimes, simply looking at the user or group owner gives you a good hint (ie: ls -lsha).





    Put /tmp into RAM instead of disk



    If you desire, you can put your /tmp directory into RAM. You will have to determine if this is a smart move based on available RAM, as well as the size and frequency of read/writes.



    $ sudo vim /etc/fstab

    ...
    # tmpfs in RAM
    tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
    ...


    $ sudo mount /tmp
    $ mount | grep tmp # Check /tmp is in RAM
    tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime)


    If you have enough RAM, this can be considered a very good thing to do for both the longevity of your SSD, as well as the speed of your system. You can even accomplish this with smaller amounts of RAM if you tweak tmpreaper (sometimes tmpwatch) to be more aggressive.






    share|improve this answer






























      7














      Determine which program/process is touching files



      You can use tools such as lsof to determine which processes and binaries are touching/opening which files. This could become troublesome if the files change frequently, so you can instead set up a watch to notify you:



      $ sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


      Sometimes, simply looking at the user or group owner gives you a good hint (ie: ls -lsha).





      Put /tmp into RAM instead of disk



      If you desire, you can put your /tmp directory into RAM. You will have to determine if this is a smart move based on available RAM, as well as the size and frequency of read/writes.



      $ sudo vim /etc/fstab

      ...
      # tmpfs in RAM
      tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
      ...


      $ sudo mount /tmp
      $ mount | grep tmp # Check /tmp is in RAM
      tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime)


      If you have enough RAM, this can be considered a very good thing to do for both the longevity of your SSD, as well as the speed of your system. You can even accomplish this with smaller amounts of RAM if you tweak tmpreaper (sometimes tmpwatch) to be more aggressive.






      share|improve this answer




























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        7







        Determine which program/process is touching files



        You can use tools such as lsof to determine which processes and binaries are touching/opening which files. This could become troublesome if the files change frequently, so you can instead set up a watch to notify you:



        $ sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


        Sometimes, simply looking at the user or group owner gives you a good hint (ie: ls -lsha).





        Put /tmp into RAM instead of disk



        If you desire, you can put your /tmp directory into RAM. You will have to determine if this is a smart move based on available RAM, as well as the size and frequency of read/writes.



        $ sudo vim /etc/fstab

        ...
        # tmpfs in RAM
        tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
        ...


        $ sudo mount /tmp
        $ mount | grep tmp # Check /tmp is in RAM
        tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime)


        If you have enough RAM, this can be considered a very good thing to do for both the longevity of your SSD, as well as the speed of your system. You can even accomplish this with smaller amounts of RAM if you tweak tmpreaper (sometimes tmpwatch) to be more aggressive.






        share|improve this answer















        Determine which program/process is touching files



        You can use tools such as lsof to determine which processes and binaries are touching/opening which files. This could become troublesome if the files change frequently, so you can instead set up a watch to notify you:



        $ sudo fnotifystat -i /tmp


        Sometimes, simply looking at the user or group owner gives you a good hint (ie: ls -lsha).





        Put /tmp into RAM instead of disk



        If you desire, you can put your /tmp directory into RAM. You will have to determine if this is a smart move based on available RAM, as well as the size and frequency of read/writes.



        $ sudo vim /etc/fstab

        ...
        # tmpfs in RAM
        tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
        ...


        $ sudo mount /tmp
        $ mount | grep tmp # Check /tmp is in RAM
        tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime)


        If you have enough RAM, this can be considered a very good thing to do for both the longevity of your SSD, as well as the speed of your system. You can even accomplish this with smaller amounts of RAM if you tweak tmpreaper (sometimes tmpwatch) to be more aggressive.







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            very undesirable one on a SSD




            You tagged your question with tmpfs, so it is not quite clear to me how this relates to SSD at all. Tmpfs is an in-memory (or more precisely, in-block-cache) filesystem, so it will never hit a physical disk.



            Furthermore, even if you had a physical backing store for your /tmp filesystem, unless you have a system with only a couple of kilobytes of RAM, those short-lived files will never hit the disk, all operations will happen in the cache.



            So, in other words, there is nothing to worry about since you are using tmpfs, and if you weren't, there still would be nothing to worry about.






            share|improve this answer
























            • I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 3 at 16:23













            • @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

              – Jörg W Mittag
              Apr 3 at 21:36











            • I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 4 at 12:55
















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            very undesirable one on a SSD




            You tagged your question with tmpfs, so it is not quite clear to me how this relates to SSD at all. Tmpfs is an in-memory (or more precisely, in-block-cache) filesystem, so it will never hit a physical disk.



            Furthermore, even if you had a physical backing store for your /tmp filesystem, unless you have a system with only a couple of kilobytes of RAM, those short-lived files will never hit the disk, all operations will happen in the cache.



            So, in other words, there is nothing to worry about since you are using tmpfs, and if you weren't, there still would be nothing to worry about.






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            • I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 3 at 16:23













            • @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

              – Jörg W Mittag
              Apr 3 at 21:36











            • I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 4 at 12:55














            3












            3








            3








            very undesirable one on a SSD




            You tagged your question with tmpfs, so it is not quite clear to me how this relates to SSD at all. Tmpfs is an in-memory (or more precisely, in-block-cache) filesystem, so it will never hit a physical disk.



            Furthermore, even if you had a physical backing store for your /tmp filesystem, unless you have a system with only a couple of kilobytes of RAM, those short-lived files will never hit the disk, all operations will happen in the cache.



            So, in other words, there is nothing to worry about since you are using tmpfs, and if you weren't, there still would be nothing to worry about.






            share|improve this answer














            very undesirable one on a SSD




            You tagged your question with tmpfs, so it is not quite clear to me how this relates to SSD at all. Tmpfs is an in-memory (or more precisely, in-block-cache) filesystem, so it will never hit a physical disk.



            Furthermore, even if you had a physical backing store for your /tmp filesystem, unless you have a system with only a couple of kilobytes of RAM, those short-lived files will never hit the disk, all operations will happen in the cache.



            So, in other words, there is nothing to worry about since you are using tmpfs, and if you weren't, there still would be nothing to worry about.







            share|improve this answer












            share|improve this answer



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            answered Apr 3 at 7:14









            Jörg W MittagJörg W Mittag

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            • I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 3 at 16:23













            • @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

              – Jörg W Mittag
              Apr 3 at 21:36











            • I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 4 at 12:55



















            • I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 3 at 16:23













            • @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

              – Jörg W Mittag
              Apr 3 at 21:36











            • I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

              – adrhc
              Apr 4 at 12:55

















            I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

            – adrhc
            Apr 3 at 16:23







            I keep the /tmp in RAM so by mistake I tagged also with my current fs type (tmpfs). I removed it now but I find you're answer useful too so 1 up from me.

            – adrhc
            Apr 3 at 16:23















            @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

            – Jörg W Mittag
            Apr 3 at 21:36





            @adrhc: If your /tmp is in RAM, then it has nothing whatsoever to do with your SSD, so it is neither desirable nor undesirable but actually completely unrelated.

            – Jörg W Mittag
            Apr 3 at 21:36













            I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

            – adrhc
            Apr 4 at 12:55





            I agree but the question is about when not having /tmp in RAM. It just happened that I had /tmp in RAM; still, the problem intrigued me.

            – adrhc
            Apr 4 at 12:55


















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