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Some languages have a "regulatory body" issuing recommendations and guidelines regarding the use of that language.



For example in the case of Spanish it's the Real Academia Española whose status is recognised in all Spanish-speaking countries. The Academy, among other things, publishes a dictionary ("DRAE"), in print and online, which is usually given a lot of prestige (but is not without controversies, of course).



Are there any such authorative—or at least influential—institution(s) or publication(s) for the English language?










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  • This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

    – Jason Orendorff
    Apr 6 '11 at 13:01






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    The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

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    Jun 7 '11 at 20:20






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    There's us, of course...

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    Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

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  • David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

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Some languages have a "regulatory body" issuing recommendations and guidelines regarding the use of that language.



For example in the case of Spanish it's the Real Academia Española whose status is recognised in all Spanish-speaking countries. The Academy, among other things, publishes a dictionary ("DRAE"), in print and online, which is usually given a lot of prestige (but is not without controversies, of course).



Are there any such authorative—or at least influential—institution(s) or publication(s) for the English language?










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  • This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

    – Jason Orendorff
    Apr 6 '11 at 13:01






  • 9





    The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

    – Nicholas Wilson
    Jun 7 '11 at 20:20






  • 7





    There's us, of course...

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:47






  • 6





    Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

    – John Lawler
    Nov 10 '12 at 0:00











  • David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

    – A E
    Oct 21 '14 at 14:33














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Some languages have a "regulatory body" issuing recommendations and guidelines regarding the use of that language.



For example in the case of Spanish it's the Real Academia Española whose status is recognised in all Spanish-speaking countries. The Academy, among other things, publishes a dictionary ("DRAE"), in print and online, which is usually given a lot of prestige (but is not without controversies, of course).



Are there any such authorative—or at least influential—institution(s) or publication(s) for the English language?










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Some languages have a "regulatory body" issuing recommendations and guidelines regarding the use of that language.



For example in the case of Spanish it's the Real Academia Española whose status is recognised in all Spanish-speaking countries. The Academy, among other things, publishes a dictionary ("DRAE"), in print and online, which is usually given a lot of prestige (but is not without controversies, of course).



Are there any such authorative—or at least influential—institution(s) or publication(s) for the English language?







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  • This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

    – Jason Orendorff
    Apr 6 '11 at 13:01






  • 9





    The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

    – Nicholas Wilson
    Jun 7 '11 at 20:20






  • 7





    There's us, of course...

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:47






  • 6





    Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

    – John Lawler
    Nov 10 '12 at 0:00











  • David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

    – A E
    Oct 21 '14 at 14:33



















  • This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

    – Jason Orendorff
    Apr 6 '11 at 13:01






  • 9





    The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

    – Nicholas Wilson
    Jun 7 '11 at 20:20






  • 7





    There's us, of course...

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:47






  • 6





    Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

    – John Lawler
    Nov 10 '12 at 0:00











  • David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

    – A E
    Oct 21 '14 at 14:33

















This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

– Jason Orendorff
Apr 6 '11 at 13:01





This talk by Stephen Pinker starts with some comments about how authoritative and influential such authorities really are.

– Jason Orendorff
Apr 6 '11 at 13:01




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9





The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

– Nicholas Wilson
Jun 7 '11 at 20:20





The Queen, of course. We love her to bits.

– Nicholas Wilson
Jun 7 '11 at 20:20




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7





There's us, of course...

– TimLymington
May 5 '12 at 20:47





There's us, of course...

– TimLymington
May 5 '12 at 20:47




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Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

– John Lawler
Nov 10 '12 at 0:00





Well, there's The Academy, but that only exists in my fevered imagination. Also, it's impossible to control the development of a language; attempts to do so merely develop an official stilted style to adorn government verbiage. Nobody else either learns it well or uses it for any non-satiric purpose.

– John Lawler
Nov 10 '12 at 0:00













David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

– A E
Oct 21 '14 at 14:33





David Foster Wallace has a very interesting discussion of authority in the English language in his essay "Tense Present".

– A E
Oct 21 '14 at 14:33










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Fortunately or unfortunately, no. There is no regulatory body like the Real Academia Española (or the Académie française, or the many others) deciding what is correct English; English evolves naturally with the changing usage of people. Right and wrong are decided based on describing and analyzing actual usage. (This — "descriptive linguistics" — is so canonical among English linguists that I've seen some of them occasionally find other languages' regulatory bodies an absurd idea. Anyway…)



Among dictionaries, the Oxford English dictionary and the Merriam-Webster dictionary are a couple of the "good" dictionaries (there are others), but note that these, too, have as their goal being reliable indicators of actual usage, and not regulation of, or authority over, language.






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  • I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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In the minds of most people, dictionaries and usage guides are a cipher to some presumed existing canonical, regulated definition of what is correct in the English language. Of course, no such canonical definition exists—grammaticality of English is governed only by the bulk of actual usage.



Most publishers of English dictionaries long ago abandoned any idea that they might set forth what is and is not correct in English—those few that actually did ever hold such a belief were few and far between. Modern English dictionaries, for the most part, are descriptive, although most do offer some degree of usage advice and notes. Merriam-Webster tend to be more descriptive than most, countenancing many usages criticized by others. The American Heritage Dictionary has its “Usage Panel” of experts on language and the usage notes in the dictionary cite percentages of the Usage Panel who approve or disapprove of questionable usages. The Oxford English Dictionary is widely revered as the canonical collection of English words, and it is certainly an amazing work of scholarly endeavor, most interesting in its coverage of historical English. But of course the OED holds no more official status than any other dictionary.



The most regulation we have today are style guides—such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the Associated Press Stylebook, and The MLA Style Manual. These are of course binding only on the writing governed by the producers of those style guides, but they are also used by many writers who are not required to follow them.



Then there are the professional peevologists, authors of such works as the Dictionary of Disagreeable English and The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations, who berate various usages and pronunciations they don’t like, citing whatever evidence supports their preferred usage or pronunciation, and ignoring the evidence that doesn’t.



Last, and certainly least, there is Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, perhaps the most overrated book on usage ever written, riddled with errors, hypocrisy, vacuous advice, and fatuous platitudes.






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  • Very, very, insightful answer.

    – Vincent McNabb
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    Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

    – Richard
    Aug 13 '10 at 12:47






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    @Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

    – Jeffrey L Whitledge
    Oct 26 '10 at 17:49











  • This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

    – Benjol
    Jan 12 '11 at 11:07











  • "The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

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For what is or is not an English word:



Consider the current version of the North American Scrabble® Players Association's Official Tournament and Club Word List and Long List as influential (and authoritative for Scrabble® Tournament play) on the question of whether or not a word of 15 letters or less is an American English word. Outside North America, consider the World English-language Scrabble® Players' Assocation's official list, called the Collins Scrabble Words.



For dictionaries considered authoritative:



Consider the dictionaries used to compile the Scrabble® lists as very influential overall. See also this answer at US Equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary which gives a different list.



For questions of Style and Usage:



Several organizations publish "style guides". For academic writing, the most influential are The MLA Handbook for academic writing at the high-school and undergraduate level, The MLA Style Manual for more advanced scholarly writing, The AP Stylebook for news and journalism, and The Chicago Manual of Style for general purposes. Also, The American Heritage Dictionary is notable for its use of a "Usage Panel" of 200 "prominent users of the language" which provides some of the best guidance available for what is considered best usage of words and word forms among controversial alternatives.





While there is no offical regulatory body for the English language, one influential regulatory body for American English is the North American Scrabble® Players Association. They provide a list of words acceptable for use in Scrabble® play, and thus judge whether or not a word is a word.



To be fair, they acknowledge that their list is not a complete list of English words, excluding words no longer in use among other things. Also, because of the nature of the Scrabble® game, they do not address words longer than 15 letters. Still, this is, at least in my mind, the most authoritative list of American English words there is. Which is not to say that OED is wrong if they include a word not on that list, but rather that if a word is not on that list, I would not consider it a current American English word.



A few things to note about the Scrabble® lists:





  • The Official Scrabble Players' Dictionary (OSPD) is meant for use in children's tournaments, and therefore excludes offensive words such as "asshole". It is not a complete list even by Scrabble® standards. As of this writing, the current version is OSPD4.


  • The Official Tournament and Club Word List (OWL) only includes 2-9 letter words. As of this writing, the current version is OWL2, with the next version expected in 2014. It is also focused on usage in the United States.


  • The Long List is a supplement to OWL2. It contains 10-15 letter words.


  • The Collins Scrabble Words list (CSW) is a superset of OWL2 that adds words (and spellings) used outside of the US. The current version is CSW12


At the moment, you can access electronic versions of these lists via the free study program Zyzzyva. The lists from Zyzzyva include cursory definitions of one sense of the word. The definitions are provided only to satisfy basic curiosity about the word, not to be in any way comprehensive.



On the subject of authorities, it is worth noting what authorities were used to compile the Scrabble® word lists. OWL2 was compiled with reference to:




  • American Heritage College Dictionary (4th edition),

  • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th edition, 2003 printing)

  • Random House Webster’s College Dictionary (2nd revised and updated edition, 2000)

  • Webster's New World College Dictionary (4th edition)


The Long List is published by Merriam-Webster, so it is perhaps not as surprising that it was based on Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition



The CSW adds words from Collins and Chambers dictionaries to the current version of the OWL.






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    These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

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    @Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

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    This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

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    @vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

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Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon Kindle all license OxfordDictionaries.com, AKA Oxford Living Dictionaries, previously known as Oxford Dictionaries Online (ODO), for their definitions. Specifically, the Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) and the slight variant, the New Oxford American Dictionary (NOAD). I have another question clearing up confusion about all the various Oxford dictionaries. The OED, of course, stands apart from all of them, despite sharing a publisher (Oxford University Press).



I believe these companies have lent Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) a massive air of authority, both in terms of their endorsement and just by the sheer ubiquity that these definitions now have.



(I'm actually pretty upset about this because I've gradually become convinced it's an inferior dictionary with a lot of missing and incorrect (in the descriptivist sense!) definitions.)






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  • The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

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  • @Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

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Fortunately or unfortunately, no. There is no regulatory body like the Real Academia Española (or the Académie française, or the many others) deciding what is correct English; English evolves naturally with the changing usage of people. Right and wrong are decided based on describing and analyzing actual usage. (This — "descriptive linguistics" — is so canonical among English linguists that I've seen some of them occasionally find other languages' regulatory bodies an absurd idea. Anyway…)



Among dictionaries, the Oxford English dictionary and the Merriam-Webster dictionary are a couple of the "good" dictionaries (there are others), but note that these, too, have as their goal being reliable indicators of actual usage, and not regulation of, or authority over, language.






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  • I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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Fortunately or unfortunately, no. There is no regulatory body like the Real Academia Española (or the Académie française, or the many others) deciding what is correct English; English evolves naturally with the changing usage of people. Right and wrong are decided based on describing and analyzing actual usage. (This — "descriptive linguistics" — is so canonical among English linguists that I've seen some of them occasionally find other languages' regulatory bodies an absurd idea. Anyway…)



Among dictionaries, the Oxford English dictionary and the Merriam-Webster dictionary are a couple of the "good" dictionaries (there are others), but note that these, too, have as their goal being reliable indicators of actual usage, and not regulation of, or authority over, language.






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  • I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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Fortunately or unfortunately, no. There is no regulatory body like the Real Academia Española (or the Académie française, or the many others) deciding what is correct English; English evolves naturally with the changing usage of people. Right and wrong are decided based on describing and analyzing actual usage. (This — "descriptive linguistics" — is so canonical among English linguists that I've seen some of them occasionally find other languages' regulatory bodies an absurd idea. Anyway…)



Among dictionaries, the Oxford English dictionary and the Merriam-Webster dictionary are a couple of the "good" dictionaries (there are others), but note that these, too, have as their goal being reliable indicators of actual usage, and not regulation of, or authority over, language.






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Fortunately or unfortunately, no. There is no regulatory body like the Real Academia Española (or the Académie française, or the many others) deciding what is correct English; English evolves naturally with the changing usage of people. Right and wrong are decided based on describing and analyzing actual usage. (This — "descriptive linguistics" — is so canonical among English linguists that I've seen some of them occasionally find other languages' regulatory bodies an absurd idea. Anyway…)



Among dictionaries, the Oxford English dictionary and the Merriam-Webster dictionary are a couple of the "good" dictionaries (there are others), but note that these, too, have as their goal being reliable indicators of actual usage, and not regulation of, or authority over, language.







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  • I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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  • I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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I hereby claim myself as a regulatory body over the real life names of anybody whose online username is ShreevatsaR. Your name is now whateverimtoldmynameis, which can arbitrarily changed to Ilikebananas should anyone decide to do so, because that's what I decree.

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In the minds of most people, dictionaries and usage guides are a cipher to some presumed existing canonical, regulated definition of what is correct in the English language. Of course, no such canonical definition exists—grammaticality of English is governed only by the bulk of actual usage.



Most publishers of English dictionaries long ago abandoned any idea that they might set forth what is and is not correct in English—those few that actually did ever hold such a belief were few and far between. Modern English dictionaries, for the most part, are descriptive, although most do offer some degree of usage advice and notes. Merriam-Webster tend to be more descriptive than most, countenancing many usages criticized by others. The American Heritage Dictionary has its “Usage Panel” of experts on language and the usage notes in the dictionary cite percentages of the Usage Panel who approve or disapprove of questionable usages. The Oxford English Dictionary is widely revered as the canonical collection of English words, and it is certainly an amazing work of scholarly endeavor, most interesting in its coverage of historical English. But of course the OED holds no more official status than any other dictionary.



The most regulation we have today are style guides—such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the Associated Press Stylebook, and The MLA Style Manual. These are of course binding only on the writing governed by the producers of those style guides, but they are also used by many writers who are not required to follow them.



Then there are the professional peevologists, authors of such works as the Dictionary of Disagreeable English and The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations, who berate various usages and pronunciations they don’t like, citing whatever evidence supports their preferred usage or pronunciation, and ignoring the evidence that doesn’t.



Last, and certainly least, there is Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, perhaps the most overrated book on usage ever written, riddled with errors, hypocrisy, vacuous advice, and fatuous platitudes.






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  • Very, very, insightful answer.

    – Vincent McNabb
    Aug 13 '10 at 4:53






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    Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

    – Richard
    Aug 13 '10 at 12:47






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    @Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

    – Jeffrey L Whitledge
    Oct 26 '10 at 17:49











  • This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

    – Benjol
    Jan 12 '11 at 11:07











  • "The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

    – mgb
    Dec 7 '11 at 4:16
















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In the minds of most people, dictionaries and usage guides are a cipher to some presumed existing canonical, regulated definition of what is correct in the English language. Of course, no such canonical definition exists—grammaticality of English is governed only by the bulk of actual usage.



Most publishers of English dictionaries long ago abandoned any idea that they might set forth what is and is not correct in English—those few that actually did ever hold such a belief were few and far between. Modern English dictionaries, for the most part, are descriptive, although most do offer some degree of usage advice and notes. Merriam-Webster tend to be more descriptive than most, countenancing many usages criticized by others. The American Heritage Dictionary has its “Usage Panel” of experts on language and the usage notes in the dictionary cite percentages of the Usage Panel who approve or disapprove of questionable usages. The Oxford English Dictionary is widely revered as the canonical collection of English words, and it is certainly an amazing work of scholarly endeavor, most interesting in its coverage of historical English. But of course the OED holds no more official status than any other dictionary.



The most regulation we have today are style guides—such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the Associated Press Stylebook, and The MLA Style Manual. These are of course binding only on the writing governed by the producers of those style guides, but they are also used by many writers who are not required to follow them.



Then there are the professional peevologists, authors of such works as the Dictionary of Disagreeable English and The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations, who berate various usages and pronunciations they don’t like, citing whatever evidence supports their preferred usage or pronunciation, and ignoring the evidence that doesn’t.



Last, and certainly least, there is Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, perhaps the most overrated book on usage ever written, riddled with errors, hypocrisy, vacuous advice, and fatuous platitudes.






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  • Very, very, insightful answer.

    – Vincent McNabb
    Aug 13 '10 at 4:53






  • 7





    Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

    – Richard
    Aug 13 '10 at 12:47






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    @Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

    – Jeffrey L Whitledge
    Oct 26 '10 at 17:49











  • This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

    – Benjol
    Jan 12 '11 at 11:07











  • "The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

    – mgb
    Dec 7 '11 at 4:16














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In the minds of most people, dictionaries and usage guides are a cipher to some presumed existing canonical, regulated definition of what is correct in the English language. Of course, no such canonical definition exists—grammaticality of English is governed only by the bulk of actual usage.



Most publishers of English dictionaries long ago abandoned any idea that they might set forth what is and is not correct in English—those few that actually did ever hold such a belief were few and far between. Modern English dictionaries, for the most part, are descriptive, although most do offer some degree of usage advice and notes. Merriam-Webster tend to be more descriptive than most, countenancing many usages criticized by others. The American Heritage Dictionary has its “Usage Panel” of experts on language and the usage notes in the dictionary cite percentages of the Usage Panel who approve or disapprove of questionable usages. The Oxford English Dictionary is widely revered as the canonical collection of English words, and it is certainly an amazing work of scholarly endeavor, most interesting in its coverage of historical English. But of course the OED holds no more official status than any other dictionary.



The most regulation we have today are style guides—such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the Associated Press Stylebook, and The MLA Style Manual. These are of course binding only on the writing governed by the producers of those style guides, but they are also used by many writers who are not required to follow them.



Then there are the professional peevologists, authors of such works as the Dictionary of Disagreeable English and The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations, who berate various usages and pronunciations they don’t like, citing whatever evidence supports their preferred usage or pronunciation, and ignoring the evidence that doesn’t.



Last, and certainly least, there is Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, perhaps the most overrated book on usage ever written, riddled with errors, hypocrisy, vacuous advice, and fatuous platitudes.






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In the minds of most people, dictionaries and usage guides are a cipher to some presumed existing canonical, regulated definition of what is correct in the English language. Of course, no such canonical definition exists—grammaticality of English is governed only by the bulk of actual usage.



Most publishers of English dictionaries long ago abandoned any idea that they might set forth what is and is not correct in English—those few that actually did ever hold such a belief were few and far between. Modern English dictionaries, for the most part, are descriptive, although most do offer some degree of usage advice and notes. Merriam-Webster tend to be more descriptive than most, countenancing many usages criticized by others. The American Heritage Dictionary has its “Usage Panel” of experts on language and the usage notes in the dictionary cite percentages of the Usage Panel who approve or disapprove of questionable usages. The Oxford English Dictionary is widely revered as the canonical collection of English words, and it is certainly an amazing work of scholarly endeavor, most interesting in its coverage of historical English. But of course the OED holds no more official status than any other dictionary.



The most regulation we have today are style guides—such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the Associated Press Stylebook, and The MLA Style Manual. These are of course binding only on the writing governed by the producers of those style guides, but they are also used by many writers who are not required to follow them.



Then there are the professional peevologists, authors of such works as the Dictionary of Disagreeable English and The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations, who berate various usages and pronunciations they don’t like, citing whatever evidence supports their preferred usage or pronunciation, and ignoring the evidence that doesn’t.



Last, and certainly least, there is Strunk and White's The Elements of Style, perhaps the most overrated book on usage ever written, riddled with errors, hypocrisy, vacuous advice, and fatuous platitudes.







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  • Very, very, insightful answer.

    – Vincent McNabb
    Aug 13 '10 at 4:53






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    Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

    – Richard
    Aug 13 '10 at 12:47






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    @Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

    – Jeffrey L Whitledge
    Oct 26 '10 at 17:49











  • This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

    – Benjol
    Jan 12 '11 at 11:07











  • "The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

    – mgb
    Dec 7 '11 at 4:16



















  • Very, very, insightful answer.

    – Vincent McNabb
    Aug 13 '10 at 4:53






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    Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

    – Richard
    Aug 13 '10 at 12:47






  • 2





    @Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

    – Jeffrey L Whitledge
    Oct 26 '10 at 17:49











  • This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

    – Benjol
    Jan 12 '11 at 11:07











  • "The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

    – mgb
    Dec 7 '11 at 4:16

















Very, very, insightful answer.

– Vincent McNabb
Aug 13 '10 at 4:53





Very, very, insightful answer.

– Vincent McNabb
Aug 13 '10 at 4:53




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Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

– Richard
Aug 13 '10 at 12:47





Should also add "Fowler's Modern English Usage". Also there are other good dictionaries like the "Oxford Dictionary of English" (this is a one volume dictionary, /not The OED/). For a more non-US book of style try "The Oxford Manual of Style".

– Richard
Aug 13 '10 at 12:47




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@Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

– Jeffrey L Whitledge
Oct 26 '10 at 17:49





@Richard - For a more-US dictionary from Oxford, there’s the New Oxford American Dictionary, which doesn’t even include the word “English” in the title.

– Jeffrey L Whitledge
Oct 26 '10 at 17:49













This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

– Benjol
Jan 12 '11 at 11:07





This is almost the canonical answer I was asking for here. Bookmarking forthwith :)

– Benjol
Jan 12 '11 at 11:07













"The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

– mgb
Dec 7 '11 at 4:16





"The Oxford Manual of Style" - an entire book on misusing a single comma?

– mgb
Dec 7 '11 at 4:16











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Summary



For what is or is not an English word:



Consider the current version of the North American Scrabble® Players Association's Official Tournament and Club Word List and Long List as influential (and authoritative for Scrabble® Tournament play) on the question of whether or not a word of 15 letters or less is an American English word. Outside North America, consider the World English-language Scrabble® Players' Assocation's official list, called the Collins Scrabble Words.



For dictionaries considered authoritative:



Consider the dictionaries used to compile the Scrabble® lists as very influential overall. See also this answer at US Equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary which gives a different list.



For questions of Style and Usage:



Several organizations publish "style guides". For academic writing, the most influential are The MLA Handbook for academic writing at the high-school and undergraduate level, The MLA Style Manual for more advanced scholarly writing, The AP Stylebook for news and journalism, and The Chicago Manual of Style for general purposes. Also, The American Heritage Dictionary is notable for its use of a "Usage Panel" of 200 "prominent users of the language" which provides some of the best guidance available for what is considered best usage of words and word forms among controversial alternatives.





While there is no offical regulatory body for the English language, one influential regulatory body for American English is the North American Scrabble® Players Association. They provide a list of words acceptable for use in Scrabble® play, and thus judge whether or not a word is a word.



To be fair, they acknowledge that their list is not a complete list of English words, excluding words no longer in use among other things. Also, because of the nature of the Scrabble® game, they do not address words longer than 15 letters. Still, this is, at least in my mind, the most authoritative list of American English words there is. Which is not to say that OED is wrong if they include a word not on that list, but rather that if a word is not on that list, I would not consider it a current American English word.



A few things to note about the Scrabble® lists:





  • The Official Scrabble Players' Dictionary (OSPD) is meant for use in children's tournaments, and therefore excludes offensive words such as "asshole". It is not a complete list even by Scrabble® standards. As of this writing, the current version is OSPD4.


  • The Official Tournament and Club Word List (OWL) only includes 2-9 letter words. As of this writing, the current version is OWL2, with the next version expected in 2014. It is also focused on usage in the United States.


  • The Long List is a supplement to OWL2. It contains 10-15 letter words.


  • The Collins Scrabble Words list (CSW) is a superset of OWL2 that adds words (and spellings) used outside of the US. The current version is CSW12


At the moment, you can access electronic versions of these lists via the free study program Zyzzyva. The lists from Zyzzyva include cursory definitions of one sense of the word. The definitions are provided only to satisfy basic curiosity about the word, not to be in any way comprehensive.



On the subject of authorities, it is worth noting what authorities were used to compile the Scrabble® word lists. OWL2 was compiled with reference to:




  • American Heritage College Dictionary (4th edition),

  • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th edition, 2003 printing)

  • Random House Webster’s College Dictionary (2nd revised and updated edition, 2000)

  • Webster's New World College Dictionary (4th edition)


The Long List is published by Merriam-Webster, so it is perhaps not as surprising that it was based on Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition



The CSW adds words from Collins and Chambers dictionaries to the current version of the OWL.






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    These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:50






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    @Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

    – Old Pro
    May 5 '12 at 21:05






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    This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

    – undercat
    Feb 18 '17 at 8:53








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    @vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

    – Old Pro
    Feb 20 '17 at 1:58
















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Summary



For what is or is not an English word:



Consider the current version of the North American Scrabble® Players Association's Official Tournament and Club Word List and Long List as influential (and authoritative for Scrabble® Tournament play) on the question of whether or not a word of 15 letters or less is an American English word. Outside North America, consider the World English-language Scrabble® Players' Assocation's official list, called the Collins Scrabble Words.



For dictionaries considered authoritative:



Consider the dictionaries used to compile the Scrabble® lists as very influential overall. See also this answer at US Equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary which gives a different list.



For questions of Style and Usage:



Several organizations publish "style guides". For academic writing, the most influential are The MLA Handbook for academic writing at the high-school and undergraduate level, The MLA Style Manual for more advanced scholarly writing, The AP Stylebook for news and journalism, and The Chicago Manual of Style for general purposes. Also, The American Heritage Dictionary is notable for its use of a "Usage Panel" of 200 "prominent users of the language" which provides some of the best guidance available for what is considered best usage of words and word forms among controversial alternatives.





While there is no offical regulatory body for the English language, one influential regulatory body for American English is the North American Scrabble® Players Association. They provide a list of words acceptable for use in Scrabble® play, and thus judge whether or not a word is a word.



To be fair, they acknowledge that their list is not a complete list of English words, excluding words no longer in use among other things. Also, because of the nature of the Scrabble® game, they do not address words longer than 15 letters. Still, this is, at least in my mind, the most authoritative list of American English words there is. Which is not to say that OED is wrong if they include a word not on that list, but rather that if a word is not on that list, I would not consider it a current American English word.



A few things to note about the Scrabble® lists:





  • The Official Scrabble Players' Dictionary (OSPD) is meant for use in children's tournaments, and therefore excludes offensive words such as "asshole". It is not a complete list even by Scrabble® standards. As of this writing, the current version is OSPD4.


  • The Official Tournament and Club Word List (OWL) only includes 2-9 letter words. As of this writing, the current version is OWL2, with the next version expected in 2014. It is also focused on usage in the United States.


  • The Long List is a supplement to OWL2. It contains 10-15 letter words.


  • The Collins Scrabble Words list (CSW) is a superset of OWL2 that adds words (and spellings) used outside of the US. The current version is CSW12


At the moment, you can access electronic versions of these lists via the free study program Zyzzyva. The lists from Zyzzyva include cursory definitions of one sense of the word. The definitions are provided only to satisfy basic curiosity about the word, not to be in any way comprehensive.



On the subject of authorities, it is worth noting what authorities were used to compile the Scrabble® word lists. OWL2 was compiled with reference to:




  • American Heritage College Dictionary (4th edition),

  • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th edition, 2003 printing)

  • Random House Webster’s College Dictionary (2nd revised and updated edition, 2000)

  • Webster's New World College Dictionary (4th edition)


The Long List is published by Merriam-Webster, so it is perhaps not as surprising that it was based on Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition



The CSW adds words from Collins and Chambers dictionaries to the current version of the OWL.






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  • 2





    These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:50






  • 1





    @Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

    – Old Pro
    May 5 '12 at 21:05






  • 1





    This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

    – undercat
    Feb 18 '17 at 8:53








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    @vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

    – Old Pro
    Feb 20 '17 at 1:58














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Summary



For what is or is not an English word:



Consider the current version of the North American Scrabble® Players Association's Official Tournament and Club Word List and Long List as influential (and authoritative for Scrabble® Tournament play) on the question of whether or not a word of 15 letters or less is an American English word. Outside North America, consider the World English-language Scrabble® Players' Assocation's official list, called the Collins Scrabble Words.



For dictionaries considered authoritative:



Consider the dictionaries used to compile the Scrabble® lists as very influential overall. See also this answer at US Equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary which gives a different list.



For questions of Style and Usage:



Several organizations publish "style guides". For academic writing, the most influential are The MLA Handbook for academic writing at the high-school and undergraduate level, The MLA Style Manual for more advanced scholarly writing, The AP Stylebook for news and journalism, and The Chicago Manual of Style for general purposes. Also, The American Heritage Dictionary is notable for its use of a "Usage Panel" of 200 "prominent users of the language" which provides some of the best guidance available for what is considered best usage of words and word forms among controversial alternatives.





While there is no offical regulatory body for the English language, one influential regulatory body for American English is the North American Scrabble® Players Association. They provide a list of words acceptable for use in Scrabble® play, and thus judge whether or not a word is a word.



To be fair, they acknowledge that their list is not a complete list of English words, excluding words no longer in use among other things. Also, because of the nature of the Scrabble® game, they do not address words longer than 15 letters. Still, this is, at least in my mind, the most authoritative list of American English words there is. Which is not to say that OED is wrong if they include a word not on that list, but rather that if a word is not on that list, I would not consider it a current American English word.



A few things to note about the Scrabble® lists:





  • The Official Scrabble Players' Dictionary (OSPD) is meant for use in children's tournaments, and therefore excludes offensive words such as "asshole". It is not a complete list even by Scrabble® standards. As of this writing, the current version is OSPD4.


  • The Official Tournament and Club Word List (OWL) only includes 2-9 letter words. As of this writing, the current version is OWL2, with the next version expected in 2014. It is also focused on usage in the United States.


  • The Long List is a supplement to OWL2. It contains 10-15 letter words.


  • The Collins Scrabble Words list (CSW) is a superset of OWL2 that adds words (and spellings) used outside of the US. The current version is CSW12


At the moment, you can access electronic versions of these lists via the free study program Zyzzyva. The lists from Zyzzyva include cursory definitions of one sense of the word. The definitions are provided only to satisfy basic curiosity about the word, not to be in any way comprehensive.



On the subject of authorities, it is worth noting what authorities were used to compile the Scrabble® word lists. OWL2 was compiled with reference to:




  • American Heritage College Dictionary (4th edition),

  • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th edition, 2003 printing)

  • Random House Webster’s College Dictionary (2nd revised and updated edition, 2000)

  • Webster's New World College Dictionary (4th edition)


The Long List is published by Merriam-Webster, so it is perhaps not as surprising that it was based on Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition



The CSW adds words from Collins and Chambers dictionaries to the current version of the OWL.






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Summary



For what is or is not an English word:



Consider the current version of the North American Scrabble® Players Association's Official Tournament and Club Word List and Long List as influential (and authoritative for Scrabble® Tournament play) on the question of whether or not a word of 15 letters or less is an American English word. Outside North America, consider the World English-language Scrabble® Players' Assocation's official list, called the Collins Scrabble Words.



For dictionaries considered authoritative:



Consider the dictionaries used to compile the Scrabble® lists as very influential overall. See also this answer at US Equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary which gives a different list.



For questions of Style and Usage:



Several organizations publish "style guides". For academic writing, the most influential are The MLA Handbook for academic writing at the high-school and undergraduate level, The MLA Style Manual for more advanced scholarly writing, The AP Stylebook for news and journalism, and The Chicago Manual of Style for general purposes. Also, The American Heritage Dictionary is notable for its use of a "Usage Panel" of 200 "prominent users of the language" which provides some of the best guidance available for what is considered best usage of words and word forms among controversial alternatives.





While there is no offical regulatory body for the English language, one influential regulatory body for American English is the North American Scrabble® Players Association. They provide a list of words acceptable for use in Scrabble® play, and thus judge whether or not a word is a word.



To be fair, they acknowledge that their list is not a complete list of English words, excluding words no longer in use among other things. Also, because of the nature of the Scrabble® game, they do not address words longer than 15 letters. Still, this is, at least in my mind, the most authoritative list of American English words there is. Which is not to say that OED is wrong if they include a word not on that list, but rather that if a word is not on that list, I would not consider it a current American English word.



A few things to note about the Scrabble® lists:





  • The Official Scrabble Players' Dictionary (OSPD) is meant for use in children's tournaments, and therefore excludes offensive words such as "asshole". It is not a complete list even by Scrabble® standards. As of this writing, the current version is OSPD4.


  • The Official Tournament and Club Word List (OWL) only includes 2-9 letter words. As of this writing, the current version is OWL2, with the next version expected in 2014. It is also focused on usage in the United States.


  • The Long List is a supplement to OWL2. It contains 10-15 letter words.


  • The Collins Scrabble Words list (CSW) is a superset of OWL2 that adds words (and spellings) used outside of the US. The current version is CSW12


At the moment, you can access electronic versions of these lists via the free study program Zyzzyva. The lists from Zyzzyva include cursory definitions of one sense of the word. The definitions are provided only to satisfy basic curiosity about the word, not to be in any way comprehensive.



On the subject of authorities, it is worth noting what authorities were used to compile the Scrabble® word lists. OWL2 was compiled with reference to:




  • American Heritage College Dictionary (4th edition),

  • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th edition, 2003 printing)

  • Random House Webster’s College Dictionary (2nd revised and updated edition, 2000)

  • Webster's New World College Dictionary (4th edition)


The Long List is published by Merriam-Webster, so it is perhaps not as surprising that it was based on Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition



The CSW adds words from Collins and Chambers dictionaries to the current version of the OWL.







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    These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:50






  • 1





    @Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

    – Old Pro
    May 5 '12 at 21:05






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    This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

    – undercat
    Feb 18 '17 at 8:53








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    @vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

    – Old Pro
    Feb 20 '17 at 1:58














  • 2





    These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

    – TimLymington
    May 5 '12 at 20:50






  • 1





    @Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

    – Old Pro
    May 5 '12 at 21:05






  • 1





    This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

    – undercat
    Feb 18 '17 at 8:53








  • 1





    @vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

    – Old Pro
    Feb 20 '17 at 1:58








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These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

– TimLymington
May 5 '12 at 20:50





These are, as you say, authoritative within the Scrabble community. Outside that, I doubt whether most people have heard of them, much less rely on them.

– TimLymington
May 5 '12 at 20:50




1




1





@Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

– Old Pro
May 5 '12 at 21:05





@Tim, you miss my point about the dictionaries they consulted in drawing up the lists being influential. The fact that those dictionaries (and not, for example, NOAD or Webster’s Third New International Dictionary) were chosen is significant in that it provides actual evidence of influence.

– Old Pro
May 5 '12 at 21:05




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This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

– undercat
Feb 18 '17 at 8:53







This is an interesting take on this question, however I'd like to point out that even in your own post the word "superset", for instance, does not seem to appear neither in OWL nor in OSPD, thus losing the status of a "current American English word" according to the criterion you've described... despite it having definitions in every major dictionary and being fairly widely used both in writing and in speech.

– undercat
Feb 18 '17 at 8:53






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@vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

– Old Pro
Feb 20 '17 at 1:58





@vovick, OWL3 doesn't include "drownings", either, so I agree it's not perfect, but do you have a better suggestion?

– Old Pro
Feb 20 '17 at 1:58











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Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon Kindle all license OxfordDictionaries.com, AKA Oxford Living Dictionaries, previously known as Oxford Dictionaries Online (ODO), for their definitions. Specifically, the Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) and the slight variant, the New Oxford American Dictionary (NOAD). I have another question clearing up confusion about all the various Oxford dictionaries. The OED, of course, stands apart from all of them, despite sharing a publisher (Oxford University Press).



I believe these companies have lent Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) a massive air of authority, both in terms of their endorsement and just by the sheer ubiquity that these definitions now have.



(I'm actually pretty upset about this because I've gradually become convinced it's an inferior dictionary with a lot of missing and incorrect (in the descriptivist sense!) definitions.)






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  • The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

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  • @Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

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Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon Kindle all license OxfordDictionaries.com, AKA Oxford Living Dictionaries, previously known as Oxford Dictionaries Online (ODO), for their definitions. Specifically, the Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) and the slight variant, the New Oxford American Dictionary (NOAD). I have another question clearing up confusion about all the various Oxford dictionaries. The OED, of course, stands apart from all of them, despite sharing a publisher (Oxford University Press).



I believe these companies have lent Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) a massive air of authority, both in terms of their endorsement and just by the sheer ubiquity that these definitions now have.



(I'm actually pretty upset about this because I've gradually become convinced it's an inferior dictionary with a lot of missing and incorrect (in the descriptivist sense!) definitions.)






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  • The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

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  • @Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

    – dreeves
    May 28 at 19:51














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Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon Kindle all license OxfordDictionaries.com, AKA Oxford Living Dictionaries, previously known as Oxford Dictionaries Online (ODO), for their definitions. Specifically, the Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) and the slight variant, the New Oxford American Dictionary (NOAD). I have another question clearing up confusion about all the various Oxford dictionaries. The OED, of course, stands apart from all of them, despite sharing a publisher (Oxford University Press).



I believe these companies have lent Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) a massive air of authority, both in terms of their endorsement and just by the sheer ubiquity that these definitions now have.



(I'm actually pretty upset about this because I've gradually become convinced it's an inferior dictionary with a lot of missing and incorrect (in the descriptivist sense!) definitions.)






share|improve this answer














Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon Kindle all license OxfordDictionaries.com, AKA Oxford Living Dictionaries, previously known as Oxford Dictionaries Online (ODO), for their definitions. Specifically, the Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) and the slight variant, the New Oxford American Dictionary (NOAD). I have another question clearing up confusion about all the various Oxford dictionaries. The OED, of course, stands apart from all of them, despite sharing a publisher (Oxford University Press).



I believe these companies have lent Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) a massive air of authority, both in terms of their endorsement and just by the sheer ubiquity that these definitions now have.



(I'm actually pretty upset about this because I've gradually become convinced it's an inferior dictionary with a lot of missing and incorrect (in the descriptivist sense!) definitions.)







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  • The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

    – Mitch
    May 28 at 17:29











  • @Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

    – dreeves
    May 28 at 19:51



















  • The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

    – Mitch
    May 28 at 17:29











  • @Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

    – dreeves
    May 28 at 19:51

















The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

– Mitch
May 28 at 17:29





The intent of the OED is a comprehensive and accurate historical record, that is, all the meanings of a word, starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent. That includes and excludes all the right ideas for a word. The others tend towards just the quick reminder of what you already are supposed to have a good feeling about, that is, not to be wrong, but then not to have you bother spending time exploring nuances. Note that the OED is not devoid of errors, clerical or substantive but to their great credit, they have a lot more information to work with.

– Mitch
May 28 at 17:29













@Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

– dreeves
May 28 at 19:51





@Mitch: That's interesting about errors in the OED. I'm focused on Oxford Dictionaries (ODE/NOAD) and how authoritative it is. I think the answer is "very authoritative". And yet I think they are failing at their goal of, as you say, not being wrong. That combination feels frustrating!

– dreeves
May 28 at 19:51



















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