Why is “fastly” not a word?
As well as being an adjective, fast is an adverb. We use it all the time as such:
He ran fast.
However, though slow is definitely an adjective, it sounds wrong when used as an adverb, because slowly is more common.
He ran slow.
We would always say:
He ran slowly.
My question is, why isn't fast treated the same way as slow; why is there no fastly, while there is a slowly?
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As well as being an adjective, fast is an adverb. We use it all the time as such:
He ran fast.
However, though slow is definitely an adjective, it sounds wrong when used as an adverb, because slowly is more common.
He ran slow.
We would always say:
He ran slowly.
My question is, why isn't fast treated the same way as slow; why is there no fastly, while there is a slowly?
word-usage adverbs
asked Jul 4 '11 at 1:51
DanielDaniel
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Related: Is "fastly" a correct word?
– Kosmonaut
Jul 4 '11 at 2:02
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Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
Nov 8 '11 at 6:22
@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
– Daniel
Nov 8 '11 at 13:12
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@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
– Anicul
Nov 9 '11 at 1:05
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As well as being an adjective, fast is an adverb. We use it all the time as such:
He ran fast.
However, though slow is definitely an adjective, it sounds wrong when used as an adverb, because slowly is more common.
He ran slow.
We would always say:
He ran slowly.
My question is, why isn't fast treated the same way as slow; why is there no fastly, while there is a slowly?
word-usage adverbs
asked Jul 4 '11 at 1:51
DanielDaniel
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As well as being an adjective, fast is an adverb. We use it all the time as such:
He ran fast.
However, though slow is definitely an adjective, it sounds wrong when used as an adverb, because slowly is more common.
He ran slow.
We would always say:
He ran slowly.
My question is, why isn't fast treated the same way as slow; why is there no fastly, while there is a slowly?
word-usage adverbs
word-usage adverbs
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Related: Is "fastly" a correct word?
– Kosmonaut
Jul 4 '11 at 2:02
1
Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
Nov 8 '11 at 6:22
@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
– Daniel
Nov 8 '11 at 13:12
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@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
– Anicul
Nov 9 '11 at 1:05
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Related: Is "fastly" a correct word?
– Kosmonaut
Jul 4 '11 at 2:02
1
Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
Nov 8 '11 at 6:22
@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
– Daniel
Nov 8 '11 at 13:12
1
@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
– Anicul
Nov 9 '11 at 1:05
Related: Is "fastly" a correct word?
– Kosmonaut
Jul 4 '11 at 2:02
Related: Is "fastly" a correct word?
– Kosmonaut
Jul 4 '11 at 2:02
1
1
Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
Nov 8 '11 at 6:22
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
Nov 8 '11 at 6:22
@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
– Daniel
Nov 8 '11 at 13:12
@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
– Daniel
Nov 8 '11 at 13:12
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@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
– Anicul
Nov 9 '11 at 1:05
@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
– Anicul
Nov 9 '11 at 1:05
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Because real, living languages have quirks and are never entirely systematic. The "ly" ending is generally indicative of an adverb in English, but not all adverbs end in "ly", and not all words ending in "ly" are adverbs.
Absolute consistency in a language is an indication that the language is a pidgin, a relatively new creole, or an artificial language (like Esperanto or Volapük). Any language that is in everyday use and has been around long enough to gather scratches and dings, will have them.
Quick and fast are both words that may or may not be related to rapidity. In their adjective forms, quick also means living, and fast can mean secure or firm. As an adjective or an adverb having to do with speed, fast seems to have been the result of some strange semantic drift in the period leading up to Middle English.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
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Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
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In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
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From etymonline:
fastly `(adv.): "quickly," c.1200, former adverbial cousin to fast
(adj.), from Old English fæstlic "firmly, fixedly, steadfastly,
resolutely;" obsolete in 19c., simple fast taking its place.
So it was in fact a word, but has fallen out of use.
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– Neeku
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I think this is a special case of the recent discussion of adjectives being substituted for adverbs. As a British ex-pat living in the US when I hear "He ran fast", I hear a bit of that American twang, even though Brits might also say that. I think though that Brits would feel it a little bit of an awkward phrase, and might choose "He ran quickly", but only because their is no appropriate adverbial form of fast. I should say that I think "he ran quickly" doesn't mean exactly the same as "he ran fast" but it is close enough for government work. I should also say that some might say that there is an adverbial form of "fast", being "fast", but that rather begs the question, don't you think?
When I hear "he ran slow" I hear that American twang even more strongly, and would definitely substitute the adverb.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
Fraser OrrFraser Orr
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It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
1
The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
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Well, there is always quickly and rapidly working as equivalents of fast in terms of velocity or speed if you insist on the suffix-ly.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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The answer is that "slowly" was not the original form. "Slow" is an adv. just as "fast" is. "Slowly" was introduced by classroom instruction that attempted to induce "ly" endings for adverbs as standard.
answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
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Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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Because real, living languages have quirks and are never entirely systematic. The "ly" ending is generally indicative of an adverb in English, but not all adverbs end in "ly", and not all words ending in "ly" are adverbs.
Absolute consistency in a language is an indication that the language is a pidgin, a relatively new creole, or an artificial language (like Esperanto or Volapük). Any language that is in everyday use and has been around long enough to gather scratches and dings, will have them.
Quick and fast are both words that may or may not be related to rapidity. In their adjective forms, quick also means living, and fast can mean secure or firm. As an adjective or an adverb having to do with speed, fast seems to have been the result of some strange semantic drift in the period leading up to Middle English.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
byebye
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Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
1
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
2
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
add a comment |
Because real, living languages have quirks and are never entirely systematic. The "ly" ending is generally indicative of an adverb in English, but not all adverbs end in "ly", and not all words ending in "ly" are adverbs.
Absolute consistency in a language is an indication that the language is a pidgin, a relatively new creole, or an artificial language (like Esperanto or Volapük). Any language that is in everyday use and has been around long enough to gather scratches and dings, will have them.
Quick and fast are both words that may or may not be related to rapidity. In their adjective forms, quick also means living, and fast can mean secure or firm. As an adjective or an adverb having to do with speed, fast seems to have been the result of some strange semantic drift in the period leading up to Middle English.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
byebye
10.7k3346
3
Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
1
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
2
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
add a comment |
Because real, living languages have quirks and are never entirely systematic. The "ly" ending is generally indicative of an adverb in English, but not all adverbs end in "ly", and not all words ending in "ly" are adverbs.
Absolute consistency in a language is an indication that the language is a pidgin, a relatively new creole, or an artificial language (like Esperanto or Volapük). Any language that is in everyday use and has been around long enough to gather scratches and dings, will have them.
Quick and fast are both words that may or may not be related to rapidity. In their adjective forms, quick also means living, and fast can mean secure or firm. As an adjective or an adverb having to do with speed, fast seems to have been the result of some strange semantic drift in the period leading up to Middle English.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
byebye
10.7k3346
Because real, living languages have quirks and are never entirely systematic. The "ly" ending is generally indicative of an adverb in English, but not all adverbs end in "ly", and not all words ending in "ly" are adverbs.
Absolute consistency in a language is an indication that the language is a pidgin, a relatively new creole, or an artificial language (like Esperanto or Volapük). Any language that is in everyday use and has been around long enough to gather scratches and dings, will have them.
Quick and fast are both words that may or may not be related to rapidity. In their adjective forms, quick also means living, and fast can mean secure or firm. As an adjective or an adverb having to do with speed, fast seems to have been the result of some strange semantic drift in the period leading up to Middle English.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:18
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Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
1
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
2
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
add a comment |
3
Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
1
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
2
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
3
3
Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
Sir, there isn't a single answer of yours I wouldn't like. You seem like a well educated person and I'm very happy that you're a part of this community. +1 !
– RiMMER
Jul 4 '11 at 2:25
1
1
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
Thanks, but now my hat won't fit, and I need to find other people to share the burden of carrying my ego around :)
– bye
Jul 4 '11 at 2:34
2
2
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
In fact, English has acquired so many scratches and dings that it has died. Death occurred on August 21, 2010, and was reported by The Washington Post, where, indeed, the language gave its death rattle. Here is the link to the obit: washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/…
– Hexagon Tiling
Mar 31 '12 at 13:02
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
That's funny, and I'm sure "tongue in cheek". Probably most users of this site have a usage, or a list of usages, that makes them squirm [mine's confusing "of" with "'ve", as in "He shouldn't of."] But English will change and survive.
– David Garner
Jan 29 '15 at 14:03
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From etymonline:
fastly `(adv.): "quickly," c.1200, former adverbial cousin to fast
(adj.), from Old English fæstlic "firmly, fixedly, steadfastly,
resolutely;" obsolete in 19c., simple fast taking its place.
So it was in fact a word, but has fallen out of use.
edited Jan 29 '15 at 13:57
Misti
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Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
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From etymonline:
fastly `(adv.): "quickly," c.1200, former adverbial cousin to fast
(adj.), from Old English fæstlic "firmly, fixedly, steadfastly,
resolutely;" obsolete in 19c., simple fast taking its place.
So it was in fact a word, but has fallen out of use.
edited Jan 29 '15 at 13:57
Misti
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answered Jan 29 '15 at 12:10
JimmyJimmy
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Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
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From etymonline:
fastly `(adv.): "quickly," c.1200, former adverbial cousin to fast
(adj.), from Old English fæstlic "firmly, fixedly, steadfastly,
resolutely;" obsolete in 19c., simple fast taking its place.
So it was in fact a word, but has fallen out of use.
edited Jan 29 '15 at 13:57
Misti
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answered Jan 29 '15 at 12:10
JimmyJimmy
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From etymonline:
fastly `(adv.): "quickly," c.1200, former adverbial cousin to fast
(adj.), from Old English fæstlic "firmly, fixedly, steadfastly,
resolutely;" obsolete in 19c., simple fast taking its place.
So it was in fact a word, but has fallen out of use.
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Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
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Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
Please provide the link to the references you provide.
– Neeku
Jan 29 '15 at 12:54
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I think this is a special case of the recent discussion of adjectives being substituted for adverbs. As a British ex-pat living in the US when I hear "He ran fast", I hear a bit of that American twang, even though Brits might also say that. I think though that Brits would feel it a little bit of an awkward phrase, and might choose "He ran quickly", but only because their is no appropriate adverbial form of fast. I should say that I think "he ran quickly" doesn't mean exactly the same as "he ran fast" but it is close enough for government work. I should also say that some might say that there is an adverbial form of "fast", being "fast", but that rather begs the question, don't you think?
When I hear "he ran slow" I hear that American twang even more strongly, and would definitely substitute the adverb.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
Fraser OrrFraser Orr
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It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
1
The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
add a comment |
I think this is a special case of the recent discussion of adjectives being substituted for adverbs. As a British ex-pat living in the US when I hear "He ran fast", I hear a bit of that American twang, even though Brits might also say that. I think though that Brits would feel it a little bit of an awkward phrase, and might choose "He ran quickly", but only because their is no appropriate adverbial form of fast. I should say that I think "he ran quickly" doesn't mean exactly the same as "he ran fast" but it is close enough for government work. I should also say that some might say that there is an adverbial form of "fast", being "fast", but that rather begs the question, don't you think?
When I hear "he ran slow" I hear that American twang even more strongly, and would definitely substitute the adverb.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
Fraser OrrFraser Orr
13k23049
1
It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
1
The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
add a comment |
I think this is a special case of the recent discussion of adjectives being substituted for adverbs. As a British ex-pat living in the US when I hear "He ran fast", I hear a bit of that American twang, even though Brits might also say that. I think though that Brits would feel it a little bit of an awkward phrase, and might choose "He ran quickly", but only because their is no appropriate adverbial form of fast. I should say that I think "he ran quickly" doesn't mean exactly the same as "he ran fast" but it is close enough for government work. I should also say that some might say that there is an adverbial form of "fast", being "fast", but that rather begs the question, don't you think?
When I hear "he ran slow" I hear that American twang even more strongly, and would definitely substitute the adverb.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
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I think this is a special case of the recent discussion of adjectives being substituted for adverbs. As a British ex-pat living in the US when I hear "He ran fast", I hear a bit of that American twang, even though Brits might also say that. I think though that Brits would feel it a little bit of an awkward phrase, and might choose "He ran quickly", but only because their is no appropriate adverbial form of fast. I should say that I think "he ran quickly" doesn't mean exactly the same as "he ran fast" but it is close enough for government work. I should also say that some might say that there is an adverbial form of "fast", being "fast", but that rather begs the question, don't you think?
When I hear "he ran slow" I hear that American twang even more strongly, and would definitely substitute the adverb.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 4:33
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It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
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The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
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It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
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The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
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It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
It's pretty common nowadays in even only slightly informal speech to drop the '-ly' in adverbs. It may sound "twangy" but I don't think it is is restricted to any particular AmE regional dialect.
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 13:46
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The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
The Etymonline entry for 'fast' rather thoroughtly disagrees with you about this. According to it, 'fast' in the sense of 'quick' developed as an adverb from Old English or Old Norse, well before the founding of America.
– user1579
Jul 4 '11 at 18:31
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
As an American, I do perceive a difference between "fast" and "quickly". The phrase "He spoke fast," would usually mean he is speaking with high speed, whereas "He spoke quickly", would usually mean "He spoke right away". (Each adverb can take both meanings: "he acted fast" usually means "right away", whereas "he ran quickly" usually means with "high speed".)
– Peter Shor
Nov 8 '11 at 12:11
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Well, there is always quickly and rapidly working as equivalents of fast in terms of velocity or speed if you insist on the suffix-ly.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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Well, there is always quickly and rapidly working as equivalents of fast in terms of velocity or speed if you insist on the suffix-ly.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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Well, there is always quickly and rapidly working as equivalents of fast in terms of velocity or speed if you insist on the suffix-ly.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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Well, there is always quickly and rapidly working as equivalents of fast in terms of velocity or speed if you insist on the suffix-ly.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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edited Jul 4 '11 at 18:23
answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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answered Jul 4 '11 at 2:17
JamieJamie
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I'm sorry, but in both your examples, "slow" is an adjective.
– Daniel
Jul 4 '11 at 2:31
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
I updated my answer, and yes I know they are adj. but I provided them as adverbs. I removed the examples so no one will confuse.
– Jamie
Jul 4 '11 at 18:25
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The answer is that "slowly" was not the original form. "Slow" is an adv. just as "fast" is. "Slowly" was introduced by classroom instruction that attempted to induce "ly" endings for adverbs as standard.
answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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The answer is that "slowly" was not the original form. "Slow" is an adv. just as "fast" is. "Slowly" was introduced by classroom instruction that attempted to induce "ly" endings for adverbs as standard.
answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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The answer is that "slowly" was not the original form. "Slow" is an adv. just as "fast" is. "Slowly" was introduced by classroom instruction that attempted to induce "ly" endings for adverbs as standard.
answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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The answer is that "slowly" was not the original form. "Slow" is an adv. just as "fast" is. "Slowly" was introduced by classroom instruction that attempted to induce "ly" endings for adverbs as standard.
answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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answered Mar 4 '12 at 22:30
GerryGerry
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
And when would this classroom instruction have happened? Shakespeare (who wrote his plays well before grammar police started infecting classrooms) used both fastly and slowly.
– Peter Shor
Mar 4 '12 at 23:57
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
What utter nonsense. Slowly as an adverb is attested in English as far back as the ninth century, about six hundred years before slow as an adverb is attested.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Jan 29 '15 at 12:43
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– Kosmonaut
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Shouldn't this be titled "Why is 'fastly' not a word?" (with no change in any answers needed).
– Mitch
Jul 4 '11 at 22:27
Most adjectives have adverbial forms, so I agree with Mitch in the opinion that this question would be more useful if it were about "fastly".
– Anicul
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@Anicul: I edited; did you downvote?
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@drɱ65: Yes. Thank you for editing! I removed my downvote. Also, I agree with Peter in the opinion that fast is only an adjective.
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