The meaning of the Middle English word “king” [closed]
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Why was the word (?verb?) "king" used in this (page 63) Mk.2:6 part of the Wycliffe Bible?
The King James Version
Mk.2:6
But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts
Furthermore the ordinary Middle English spelling of this word ('as a noun') in this source is "kyng".
orthography middle-english handwriting
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Why was the word (?verb?) "king" used in this (page 63) Mk.2:6 part of the Wycliffe Bible?
The King James Version
Mk.2:6
But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts
Furthermore the ordinary Middle English spelling of this word ('as a noun') in this source is "kyng".
orthography middle-english handwriting
edited May 13 at 18:52
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asked May 13 at 13:19
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closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, Chappo, JJJ, jimm101, Mark Beadles May 19 at 14:02
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Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29
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Why was the word (?verb?) "king" used in this (page 63) Mk.2:6 part of the Wycliffe Bible?
The King James Version
Mk.2:6
But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts
Furthermore the ordinary Middle English spelling of this word ('as a noun') in this source is "kyng".
orthography middle-english handwriting
edited May 13 at 18:52
aparente001
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asked May 13 at 13:19
IwantToKnowIwantToKnow
484
Why was the word (?verb?) "king" used in this (page 63) Mk.2:6 part of the Wycliffe Bible?
The King James Version
Mk.2:6
But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts
Furthermore the ordinary Middle English spelling of this word ('as a noun') in this source is "kyng".
orthography middle-english handwriting
orthography middle-english handwriting
edited May 13 at 18:52
aparente001
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asked May 13 at 13:19
IwantToKnowIwantToKnow
484
edited May 13 at 18:52
aparente001
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asked May 13 at 13:19
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484
edited May 13 at 18:52
aparente001
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edited May 13 at 18:52
aparente001
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edited May 13 at 18:52
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asked May 13 at 13:19
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asked May 13 at 13:19
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closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, Chappo, JJJ, jimm101, Mark Beadles May 19 at 14:02
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Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29
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Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29
Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29
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It's the second half of the word "thinking", (or "thenking") with the first half being at the end of the previous line.
A modern rendition of the Wycliffe translation has
But there were some of the scribes sitting, and thinking in their hearts
(or "but the were sume of the scribis sittyng y thenking in her hertis")
You can clearly see the words for 'scribis' and 'sittyng' and 'hertis', and you can also see another place where a word is split, "sume", between the end of the line two above the red circle and the beginning of the line above it.
Splitting a word was not unusual in those days. Writing materials were rare enough not to waste space where a word could be started in it, and finished on the next line.
answered May 13 at 13:38
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Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen inword-breakingthere and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)
– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
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It's the second half of the word "thinking", (or "thenking") with the first half being at the end of the previous line.
A modern rendition of the Wycliffe translation has
But there were some of the scribes sitting, and thinking in their hearts
(or "but the were sume of the scribis sittyng y thenking in her hertis")
You can clearly see the words for 'scribis' and 'sittyng' and 'hertis', and you can also see another place where a word is split, "sume", between the end of the line two above the red circle and the beginning of the line above it.
Splitting a word was not unusual in those days. Writing materials were rare enough not to waste space where a word could be started in it, and finished on the next line.
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
2
Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen inword-breakingthere and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)
– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
add a comment |
It's the second half of the word "thinking", (or "thenking") with the first half being at the end of the previous line.
A modern rendition of the Wycliffe translation has
But there were some of the scribes sitting, and thinking in their hearts
(or "but the were sume of the scribis sittyng y thenking in her hertis")
You can clearly see the words for 'scribis' and 'sittyng' and 'hertis', and you can also see another place where a word is split, "sume", between the end of the line two above the red circle and the beginning of the line above it.
Splitting a word was not unusual in those days. Writing materials were rare enough not to waste space where a word could be started in it, and finished on the next line.
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
2
Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen inword-breakingthere and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)
– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
add a comment |
It's the second half of the word "thinking", (or "thenking") with the first half being at the end of the previous line.
A modern rendition of the Wycliffe translation has
But there were some of the scribes sitting, and thinking in their hearts
(or "but the were sume of the scribis sittyng y thenking in her hertis")
You can clearly see the words for 'scribis' and 'sittyng' and 'hertis', and you can also see another place where a word is split, "sume", between the end of the line two above the red circle and the beginning of the line above it.
Splitting a word was not unusual in those days. Writing materials were rare enough not to waste space where a word could be started in it, and finished on the next line.
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
It's the second half of the word "thinking", (or "thenking") with the first half being at the end of the previous line.
A modern rendition of the Wycliffe translation has
But there were some of the scribes sitting, and thinking in their hearts
(or "but the were sume of the scribis sittyng y thenking in her hertis")
You can clearly see the words for 'scribis' and 'sittyng' and 'hertis', and you can also see another place where a word is split, "sume", between the end of the line two above the red circle and the beginning of the line above it.
Splitting a word was not unusual in those days. Writing materials were rare enough not to waste space where a word could be started in it, and finished on the next line.
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
edited May 14 at 18:52
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
answered May 13 at 13:38
DJClayworthDJClayworth
12k12737
12k12737
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Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen inword-breakingthere and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)
– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
add a comment |
2
Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen inword-breakingthere and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)
– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
2
2
Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
Nor is it unusual today, although (as you know) in modern English we would always insert a hyphen.
– Davislor
May 13 at 21:17
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen in
word-breaking there and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
it's pretty unusual if you consider how much digital writing people consume these days. it seems like word-breaking is off by default on most platforms and applications. (i put the hyphen in
word-breaking there and SE styling seems to take that as a potential line break boundary, but other long words near the edge of the container don't get the same treatment and don't get automatic hyphen insertion)– mendota
May 13 at 22:15
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
I don't like a modern rendition. The source words 'ȝerde' and 'ȝeerd' are replaced by 'rod'
– IwantToKnow
May 14 at 17:22
add a comment |
Can you give a lot more context, like what you expect to be there, the current English for it (don't rely on links), any extra motivation you have?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:24
Thanks for the update. Can you also give in modern script what you think that passage is?
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:34
...which is to say that it could be 'sitting and then-king in her hertis'.
– Mitch
May 13 at 13:35
@Mitch en.wiktionary.org/wiki/think#Etymology_1
– IwantToKnow
May 13 at 13:43
Welcome to ELU. What is your question precisely? The various spellings, the historical context, etc. It's a bit unclear to me.
– Karlomanio
May 13 at 17:29