Leading to the right path XXX, is it incorrect or correct?
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This excerpt is taken from a translated Chinese novel:
"Only after leading to the right path 1000 souls could one call themselves virtuous."
I find the original sentence weird and also think that it's grammatically incorrect. However the translator and 1 other person believe otherwise. Which made me doubt my initial claim.
Personally, I would change it to:
"Only after leading 1000 souls to the right path could one call themselves virtuous."
Please tell me whether the original sentence is grammatically incorrect or correct (if possible provide a source).
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This excerpt is taken from a translated Chinese novel:
"Only after leading to the right path 1000 souls could one call themselves virtuous."
I find the original sentence weird and also think that it's grammatically incorrect. However the translator and 1 other person believe otherwise. Which made me doubt my initial claim.
Personally, I would change it to:
"Only after leading 1000 souls to the right path could one call themselves virtuous."
Please tell me whether the original sentence is grammatically incorrect or correct (if possible provide a source).
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It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago
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This excerpt is taken from a translated Chinese novel:
"Only after leading to the right path 1000 souls could one call themselves virtuous."
I find the original sentence weird and also think that it's grammatically incorrect. However the translator and 1 other person believe otherwise. Which made me doubt my initial claim.
Personally, I would change it to:
"Only after leading 1000 souls to the right path could one call themselves virtuous."
Please tell me whether the original sentence is grammatically incorrect or correct (if possible provide a source).
grammaticality usage sentence phrase-usage
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This excerpt is taken from a translated Chinese novel:
"Only after leading to the right path 1000 souls could one call themselves virtuous."
I find the original sentence weird and also think that it's grammatically incorrect. However the translator and 1 other person believe otherwise. Which made me doubt my initial claim.
Personally, I would change it to:
"Only after leading 1000 souls to the right path could one call themselves virtuous."
Please tell me whether the original sentence is grammatically incorrect or correct (if possible provide a source).
grammaticality usage sentence phrase-usage
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It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago
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It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago
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It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago
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It doesn't break any rule of grammar, but I had to read it twice to make out what it meant. Your version is much easier to understand.
– Kate Bunting
13 hours ago
Oneself is the correct reflexive pronoun for one. Someone or somebody calling themselves seems to be acceptable today, though I will always cringe at themself, which one sometimes sees.
– KarlG
13 hours ago
The original sentence is perfectly grammatical. The strong tendency not to put anything between the verb and the direct object is a modern development in English, so it wouldn't have sounded unusual 100 years ago, the way that it does now.
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@KarlG: Until the recent rise of feminism, both himself and oneself were perfectly good reflexive pronouns for one. Now, himself has been replaced by themself/themselves. And fighting against the pronoun themself is a losing cause — we have ourself and yourself for two other formerly plural possessive pronouns; why not themself for singular they?
– Peter Shor
12 hours ago
@PeterShor: at this point, such usage is merely tendentious, i.e., they express the ideological more than the lexical. Maybe they will stick, maybe they won’t. People once thought mail carrier was odd.
– KarlG
12 hours ago