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          They did not. The organisation was invented for the DS9 episode Inquisition, broadcast 4 years after the last episode of TNG.




          Q. Was there any debate about whether or not to establish that [Section 31,
          in "Inquisition"] has been around for so long?



          A. We had extended conversations about the backstory to Section 31 and yes, there was a lot of debate about how long and under what
          circumstances this branch had existed.



          Ronald D. Moore - Webchat AOL






          That being said, Section 31 comes into conflict with the crew of the TNG Enterprise a few years after Nemesis in the EU novel Star Trek: Section 31: Control.




          Data felt great pride at the progress his daughter had made in so
          short a time. When he was her age, he had still been struggling to
          master basic interactions with organic sentient beings. By contrast,
          Lal meshed easily with organic beings, and in spite of what Data had
          originally considered her fragile emotional state, she was
          demonstrating tremendous calm and poise in the face of a serious and
          perhaps even existential threat from Section 31.







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            veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

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            9 hours ago











          • While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

            – trlkly
            47 mins ago





















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          As @Valorum already stated, 'Section 31' as a department was thought up during DS9's run, but in-universe the organisation, or specifically the article in the Starfleet charter that lends its name to the covert-ops branch, has existed since the very beginning. Here's a quote from the Star trek: Enterprise episode Divergence, where Phlox is ... involuntarily re-assigned.




          ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.



          HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.




          http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/92.htm






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            The strange thing is that it was a super-secret division in DS9 time, but everyone on Discovery seems to know about it, in pre-TOS time.

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          They did not. The organisation was invented for the DS9 episode Inquisition, broadcast 4 years after the last episode of TNG.




          Q. Was there any debate about whether or not to establish that [Section 31,
          in "Inquisition"] has been around for so long?



          A. We had extended conversations about the backstory to Section 31 and yes, there was a lot of debate about how long and under what
          circumstances this branch had existed.



          Ronald D. Moore - Webchat AOL






          That being said, Section 31 comes into conflict with the crew of the TNG Enterprise a few years after Nemesis in the EU novel Star Trek: Section 31: Control.




          Data felt great pride at the progress his daughter had made in so
          short a time. When he was her age, he had still been struggling to
          master basic interactions with organic sentient beings. By contrast,
          Lal meshed easily with organic beings, and in spite of what Data had
          originally considered her fragile emotional state, she was
          demonstrating tremendous calm and poise in the face of a serious and
          perhaps even existential threat from Section 31.







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            veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

            – NKCampbell
            9 hours ago











          • While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

            – trlkly
            47 mins ago


















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          They did not. The organisation was invented for the DS9 episode Inquisition, broadcast 4 years after the last episode of TNG.




          Q. Was there any debate about whether or not to establish that [Section 31,
          in "Inquisition"] has been around for so long?



          A. We had extended conversations about the backstory to Section 31 and yes, there was a lot of debate about how long and under what
          circumstances this branch had existed.



          Ronald D. Moore - Webchat AOL






          That being said, Section 31 comes into conflict with the crew of the TNG Enterprise a few years after Nemesis in the EU novel Star Trek: Section 31: Control.




          Data felt great pride at the progress his daughter had made in so
          short a time. When he was her age, he had still been struggling to
          master basic interactions with organic sentient beings. By contrast,
          Lal meshed easily with organic beings, and in spite of what Data had
          originally considered her fragile emotional state, she was
          demonstrating tremendous calm and poise in the face of a serious and
          perhaps even existential threat from Section 31.







          share|improve this answer





















          • 2





            veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

            – NKCampbell
            9 hours ago











          • While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

            – trlkly
            47 mins ago
















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          They did not. The organisation was invented for the DS9 episode Inquisition, broadcast 4 years after the last episode of TNG.




          Q. Was there any debate about whether or not to establish that [Section 31,
          in "Inquisition"] has been around for so long?



          A. We had extended conversations about the backstory to Section 31 and yes, there was a lot of debate about how long and under what
          circumstances this branch had existed.



          Ronald D. Moore - Webchat AOL






          That being said, Section 31 comes into conflict with the crew of the TNG Enterprise a few years after Nemesis in the EU novel Star Trek: Section 31: Control.




          Data felt great pride at the progress his daughter had made in so
          short a time. When he was her age, he had still been struggling to
          master basic interactions with organic sentient beings. By contrast,
          Lal meshed easily with organic beings, and in spite of what Data had
          originally considered her fragile emotional state, she was
          demonstrating tremendous calm and poise in the face of a serious and
          perhaps even existential threat from Section 31.







          share|improve this answer















          They did not. The organisation was invented for the DS9 episode Inquisition, broadcast 4 years after the last episode of TNG.




          Q. Was there any debate about whether or not to establish that [Section 31,
          in "Inquisition"] has been around for so long?



          A. We had extended conversations about the backstory to Section 31 and yes, there was a lot of debate about how long and under what
          circumstances this branch had existed.



          Ronald D. Moore - Webchat AOL






          That being said, Section 31 comes into conflict with the crew of the TNG Enterprise a few years after Nemesis in the EU novel Star Trek: Section 31: Control.




          Data felt great pride at the progress his daughter had made in so
          short a time. When he was her age, he had still been struggling to
          master basic interactions with organic sentient beings. By contrast,
          Lal meshed easily with organic beings, and in spite of what Data had
          originally considered her fragile emotional state, she was
          demonstrating tremendous calm and poise in the face of a serious and
          perhaps even existential threat from Section 31.








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            veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

            – NKCampbell
            9 hours ago











          • While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

            – trlkly
            47 mins ago
















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            veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

            – NKCampbell
            9 hours ago











          • While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

            – trlkly
            47 mins ago










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          veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

          – NKCampbell
          9 hours ago





          veeery tenuously one might with a good bit of tongue in cheek say that the answer could be yes, in that Dr. Bashir appeared in TNG (albeit prior to his joining Section 31) :D

          – NKCampbell
          9 hours ago













          While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

          – trlkly
          47 mins ago







          While true, the fact that it canonically existed at that time had let fans into thinking that various people or plots might have involved Section 31, just under cover.

          – trlkly
          47 mins ago















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          As @Valorum already stated, 'Section 31' as a department was thought up during DS9's run, but in-universe the organisation, or specifically the article in the Starfleet charter that lends its name to the covert-ops branch, has existed since the very beginning. Here's a quote from the Star trek: Enterprise episode Divergence, where Phlox is ... involuntarily re-assigned.




          ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.



          HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.




          http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/92.htm






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            The strange thing is that it was a super-secret division in DS9 time, but everyone on Discovery seems to know about it, in pre-TOS time.

            – Barmar
            3 hours ago
















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          As @Valorum already stated, 'Section 31' as a department was thought up during DS9's run, but in-universe the organisation, or specifically the article in the Starfleet charter that lends its name to the covert-ops branch, has existed since the very beginning. Here's a quote from the Star trek: Enterprise episode Divergence, where Phlox is ... involuntarily re-assigned.




          ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.



          HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.




          http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/92.htm






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            The strange thing is that it was a super-secret division in DS9 time, but everyone on Discovery seems to know about it, in pre-TOS time.

            – Barmar
            3 hours ago














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          As @Valorum already stated, 'Section 31' as a department was thought up during DS9's run, but in-universe the organisation, or specifically the article in the Starfleet charter that lends its name to the covert-ops branch, has existed since the very beginning. Here's a quote from the Star trek: Enterprise episode Divergence, where Phlox is ... involuntarily re-assigned.




          ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.



          HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.




          http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/92.htm






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          As @Valorum already stated, 'Section 31' as a department was thought up during DS9's run, but in-universe the organisation, or specifically the article in the Starfleet charter that lends its name to the covert-ops branch, has existed since the very beginning. Here's a quote from the Star trek: Enterprise episode Divergence, where Phlox is ... involuntarily re-assigned.




          ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.



          HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.




          http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/92.htm







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